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R v Woods, 2019 NWTSC 16                S-1-CR-2017-000119

 

 

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES

 

 

IN THE MATTER OF:

 

 

HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN

 

 

- v -

 

 

TRACEY BEATRICE WOODS

_________________________________________________________ Transcript of the Sentencing Hearing held before The Honourable Justice A.M. Mahar, sitting in Yellowknife, in the Northwest Territories, on the 25th day of March, 2019.

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APPEARANCES:

 

 

Mr. D. Praught:               Counsel for the Crown

Mr. T. Bock:                  Counsel for the Accused

 

 

(Charges under s. 5(1) of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act)


INDEX OF EXHIBITS

 

 

NO.

DEFINITION

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PRESENTENCE REPORT

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1            THE COURT:             I have -- I have reviewed the

2                    presentence report and the materials that are

3                    filed on your behalf, Ms. Woods.  I would ask

4                    that the Crown perhaps read in the agreed facts

5                    again just so that we can have a transcript that

6                    more accurately reflects today's proceedings, the

7                    entirety.  Thank you.

8            MR. PRAUGHT:           Your Honour, the following

9                    facts are agreed as proven without the necessity

10                    of calling further evidence.

11                             Tracey Beatrice Woods, the accused, was born

12          November 18th, 1972.  Between March 9th and 17,

13                    2017, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police

14                    K Division Federal Investigation Unit conducted a

15                    drug trafficking investigation in Yellowknife,

16                    Northwest Territories called Project Glacier.

17                    Project Glacier focussed primarily on suspected

18                    dial-a-dope phone numbers.  A dial-a-dope phone

19                    is simply a phone that receives calls from drug

20                    users to purchase drugs.  When a call comes in,

21                    the operator arranges a meeting place with the

22                    caller, meets them at the chosen location, and

23                    sells them drugs.

24                             On March 13th, 2017, at 4:54 p.m., an

25                    undercover officer, UC, called one of the

26                    suspected dial-a-dope numbers, 445-2612, to

27                    purchase cocaine.  The call went to voicemail.


1                    At 5:41 p.m., the accused called the UC back from

2                    445-2612.  That conversation led to the UCs

3                    picking the accused up at her home at

4                    56 Rycon Drive in Yellowknife and the accused

5                    directing the UCs to the Independent Grocery

6                    Store located at 49 Street in Yellowknife to

7                    obtain cocaine.

8                             At 8:10 p.m., the UCs arrived at the

9                    Independent Grocery Store with the accused in

10                    their vehicle and proceeded to park.  The accused

11                    then asked for money, and a UC gave her $100.  At

12                    the same time, the UC asked that the accused

13                    leave her cell phone with them before leaving the

14                    vehicle.  The accused then exited the vehicle and

15                    entered the front passenger side of a white

16                    four-door Toyota Echo with Northwest Territories

17                    Licence Plate Number 326054 parked nearby.

18                             The accused was in the Toyota Echo only a

19                    short time and was back in the UC vehicle within

20                    a minute.  Once back in the UC vehicle, the

21                    accused handed a UC a plastic bag containing a

22                    0.3-gram piece of crack cocaine.  The UCs then

23                    drove the accused to her home at 56 Rycon Drive

24                    in Yellowknife, arriving at 8:16 p.m.

25                             On March 14th, 2017, at 4:37 p.m., a UC

26                    called 445-2612 to purchase cocaine.  The accused

27                    answered.  The UC indicated she wanted the same


1                    thing as yesterday, and the accused said that she

2                    would call the UC back.  At 4:48 p.m., the

3                    accused called the UC back, and that conversation

4                    led to the UCs picking the accused up at her home

5                    at 56 Rycon Drive in Yellowknife and the accused

6                    directing the UCs to 97 Niven Drive in

7                    Yellowknife to obtain cocaine.

8                             At 7:13 p.m., UCs arrived at 97 Niven Drive

9                    with the accused in their vehicle, and the

10                    accused directed the UCs to park at the far end

11                    of the building by the side door.  The accused

12                    then made a phone call.  A UC then gave the

13                    accused $100, and the accused exited the vehicle,

14                    leaving her cell phone with the UCs before doing

15                    so.  The accused then went to the side door of

16                    97 Niven Drive and was let into the building by

17                    Lisa Schaeffer.

18                             The accused remained inside the building for

19                    approximately five seconds and then returned to

20                    the UC vehicle.  Once back in the UC vehicle, the

21                    accused handed a UC a plastic bag containing

22                    0.3 gram -- a 0.3-gram piece of crack cocaine.

23                    The UCs then drove the accused to her home at

24                    56 Rycon Drive in Yellowknife, arriving at

25          5:21 p.m.

26                             On March 15th, 2017, a UC contacted the

27                    accused multiple times and was unable to reach


1                    her.  At 4:48 p.m., the accused texted the UC

2                    saying, "Just called.  No go with -- let you

3                    know."  At 4:51 p.m., the UC responded by text

4                    saying, "What?  Just call me."  The accused then

5                    responded by text saying, "Yes."  At 7:14 p.m., a

6                    UC called the accused, and they had a

7                    conversation about obtaining more cocaine.  The

8                    conversation ended with the accused indicating

9                    she would call when she gets some.

10                             On March 16, 2017, at 3:25 p.m., a UC called

11                    445-2612 to purchase cocaine.  The accused

12                    answered and said she would call the UC back.  At

13                    3:48 p.m., the accused called the UC back, and

14                    that conversation led to the UCs picking the

15                    accused up at her home at 56 Rycon Drive in

16                    Yellowknife and the accused directing the UCs to

17                    McNiven Apartments located at 700 Gitzel Street

18                    in Yellowknife to obtain cocaine.

19                             At 4:13 p.m., the UCs arrived at

20                    McNiven Apartments with the accused in their

21                    vehicle, and the accused directed -- directed the

22                    UCs to a -- to park at the rear of the building.

23                    The accused then exited the vehicle and walked

24                    towards the rear door of the building but didn't

25                    go inside.  She then returned to the UC vehicle

26                    and directed the UCs to exit to the left.  The

27                    accused then told the UC to stop the vehicle in


1                    the middle of the street, and they did so.  The

2                    accused then exited the vehicle and walked

3                    towards a woman on the stairs at the back of

4                    1452 Gitzel Street.

5                             The accused met with the woman briefly and

6                    then returned to the UC vehicle.  Once back in

7                    the UC vehicle, the accused handed a UC a plastic

8                    bag containing a 0.4-gram piece of crack cocaine.

9                    The UCs then drove the accused to her home at

10                    56 Rycon Drive in Yellowknife, arriving at

11          4:26 p.m.

12            THE COURT:             Thank you, Mr. Praught.  The

13                    facts have already been admitted, and I have

14                    already made a finding of guilt.  What is your

15                    position on sentence?

16            MR. PRAUGHT:           Your Honour, I note that a

17                    presentence report has been filed.  I'd ask that

18                    that be made the next exhibit on the sentencing

19                    hearing.

20            THE COURT:             Exhibit 1.  I am providing

21                    that to the clerk now.  The original is in

22                    this -- thank you.  I have got the copies with me

23                    to -- have that back just yet.

24                    EXHIBIT 1:  PRESENTENCE REPORT

25            MR. PRAUGHT:           And, Your Honour, I note that

26                    my friend has filed, I believe, two documents

27                    with the Court.


 

1

THE

COURT:             Yes, that is this.

2

MR.

PRAUGHT:           And the Crown has no objection

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to those being made exhibits on the sentencing

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hearing.

5

THE

COURT:             Very good.

6

MR.

PRAUGHT:           I -- I do note a couple of

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things that raise some questions for the Crown.

 

8                    The first was that there appear to be, perhaps,

9                    some duplications of some of the certificates

10                    that are in the first book.  And maybe that my

11                    friend can speak to some subtleties that the

12                    Crown didn't appreciate, but there appear that,

13                    maybe, there are some duplicates.

14                             And the second is that on a -- at tab 14 of

15                    the first book, there are -- no, I apologize.

16                    Oh, it's tab 2 of the first book, Your Honour.

17                    There are two sheets of paper that indicate times

18                    where counselling sessions took place.

19            THE COURT:             Yes.

20            MR. PRAUGHT:           And I may be reading this

21                    wrong, but it appears that they go from

22          February 2016 to August 2017.  I just note in the

23          table of contents, my friend has December 5th.  I

24          may be reading that wrong, but are those the only

25                    two things that the Crown noted that were perhaps

26                    in error.

27            THE COURT:             Thank you, Mr. Praught.


1            MR. PRAUGHT:           But as I say, no objection to

2                    these going -- being made exhibits, Your Honour.

3            THE COURT:             They have already been filed

4                    as exhibits.  We can deal with that.  There is

5                    a -- Defendant Sentencing Exhibits, 25 tabs, and

6                    a further 7-tab sentencing -- Sentencing

7                    Exhibits, part 2.  And those are before me, and I

8                    have reviewed them.

9            MR. PRAUGHT:           Your Honour, I can advise the

10                    Court that Ms. Woods does not have a

11                    criminal record.  With respect to the presentence

12                    report, it outlines that Ms. Woods is currently

13                    46 years old.  She was 45 at the time of the

14                    events.  She is a Chipewyan woman.  She was born

15                    and raised in Yellowknife, although for a period

16                    of time, she was with relatives in

17                    British Columbia, I believe, between the ages of

18          8 and 11.

19                             She did not know her biological father and

20                    grew up with her mother and stepfather.  She

21                    suffered abuse at the hands of her stepfather, it

22                    would appear, physically, emotionally, mentally.

23                    And also in her young years, around the age of 8,

24                    there is a suggestion in the presentence report

25                    that she was sexually abused.  It wasn't clear by

26                    who to -- to me, but it appeared that it was on

27                    more than one occasion that something in that


1                    area happened.  So a very traumatic upbringing,

2                    no doubt, for Ms. Woods, a difficult childhood

3                    with her mother and her mother's partner and then

4                    away from her mother.

5                             And it appears that that strain took a toll

6                    on her relationship with her mother.  And it was

7                    severed for some time, that relationship, though

8                    currently it appears that they've mended their

9                    fences, and they now have a good relationship.

10                    And there's, I think, a reference at one point in

11                    the presentence report to her mother being one of

12                    her best friends at this point in time.

13            THE COURT:             Yes.

14            MR. PRAUGHT:           She's had a difficult

15                    childhood and apparently a difficult adult life

16                    as well.  She has struggled with addiction issues

17                    through her 20s and now into middle age, it would

18                    appear.  She did attempt to address these issues

19                    in the past on occasion.  The last time, it would

20                    appear, was about 17 years -- 16 years -- 17

21                    years ago when she attended Edgewood; almost

22                    completed the program but didn't.  It would seem

23                    that she was about 30 years old when that

24                    occurred.

25                             However, of -- of note and of importance is

26                    the fact that Ms. Woods describes to the author

27                    of the presentence report that she was clean and


1                    sober at the time that these offences took place

2                    and that she committed these crimes for the

3                    money, little as it was, to assist her in

4                    purchasing daily household items, essentially.

5                             It appears that Ms. Woods has some support

6                    outside of her mother.  She has support from her

7                    connections and friends at the CFNF as well as

8                    some support through the -- the educational

9                    institutions that she's been attending in the

10                    last year and a half or so.

11                             Overall, it's -- it's a -- it's a

12                    presentence report that indicates a difficult

13                    life for Ms. Woods, a sincere attempt to really

14                    change the direction of her life and better

15                    herself, but it also, as the Crown has pointed

16                    out, indicates that there's some troubling

17                    aspects to the -- the acute circumstances around

18                    the events herself -- themselves.

19                             Your Honour, the Crown is recommending a

20                    custodial sentence in the range of six to eight

21                    months for this offence.  Taking in all of the

22                    considerations; the predominantly positive

23                    presentence report for Ms. Woods; all the steps

24                    she has taken to better herself since the charges

25                    were laid; the fact that she's pled guilty --

26                    although the Crown would argue that should not be

27                    considered an early guilty plea.  A hearing was


1                    set for an entrapment hearing, and it was only on

2                    the day of that hearing that Ms. Woods re-elected

3                    and changed her plea.  Nonetheless, she has

4                    spared the State the cost and resources of -- of

5                    conducting that hearing and then the trial, but

6                    it should not be considered an early guilty plea,

7                    the Crown would submit -- and the -- the

8                    circumstances of the offence itself, the Crown

9                    submit six to eight months is a reasonable

10                    position for this offence.

11                             Just to address some ancillary orders before

12                    getting into some other mitigating and

13                    aggravating factors, Your Honour, a DNA order:

14                    It's a secondary designated offence.  The Crown

15                    would suggest that it's in the best

16                    administration -- best interest of the

17                    administration of justice to make that order in

18                    this case given the nature of the offence,

19                    specifically the origin of the investigation,

20                    which was into dial-a-dope numbers in the city

21                    that ultimately led to Ms. Woods.  A firearms

22                    prohibition order is mandatory, and given the

23                    recent jurisprudence, the Crown's not seeking a

24                    victim-of-crime surcharge.

25                             The Crown would submit that this

26                    recommendation is on par with other similar

27                    offenders in this jurisdiction, Your Honour, and


1                    in support of that proposition, the Crown would

2                    like to just file two cases.  I've informed my

3                    friend of the cases that I intend -- I intend to

4                    discuss.  The first is R v Tobac of the

5                    Northwest Territories Supreme Court case in --

6            THE COURT:             Yes.

7            MR. PRAUGHT:           And -- and the second is

8                    R v Grandjambe.

9            THE COURT:             Thank you.  I think it is fair

10                    to say, Mr. Praught, that the Court has been

11                    faced with a number of offenders in this type of

12                    situation who have not only very limited or

13                    nonexistent criminal records, but also extremely

14                    sympathetic personal circumstances.

15            MR. PRAUGHT:           Yes.

16            THE COURT:             And the line of approximately

17                    six month has -- has moved in that direction

18                    largely as a result of the sympathetic

19                    circumstances of the accused.  And I want to be

20                    clear that that is not simply a question of the

21                    Court moving in a -- in a lower direction from

22                    the usual -- from the usual tariff for this sort

23                    of offence, which is closer to a year.  So I take

24                    the -- the Crown's suggestion with respect to

25                    sentence to heart in that regard.  You certainly

26                    have taken into account the -- the recent case

27                    law coming out of the court.


1            MR. PRAUGHT:           And -- yes, and I just can

2                    briefly touch on these cases, Your Honour,

3                    because my friend may say they're

4                    distinguishable, and they certainly are in many

5                    respects.  Both Ms. -- excuse me.  Both Ms. Tobac

6                    and Mr. Grandjambe had lengthy criminal records,

7                    which is certainly distinguishable from

8                    Ms. Woods.  However, the Crown would submit that

9                    they ultimately were less morally culpable

10                    because the facts in these two cases were that

11                    they were really severely addicted to crack

12                    cocaine at the time they committed the offences.

13                             In Ms. Tobac's case, she was using crack

14                    cocaine on a daily basis right up to the time of

15                    the offence and her arrest when she was, in fact,

16                    pregnant; and Mr. Grandjambe, on the occasions

17                    that he essentially middled the deals for the

18                    undercover officers, was attempting to use the

19                    cocaine immediately upon exiting the residence

20                    where the cocaine was obtained.

21                             So there was clear signs of extreme

22                    addiction for each of these individuals, which

23                    the Crown submit, distinguishes them from

24                    Ms. Woods in that, as I've already said,

25                    Ms. Woods was, in her own words, clean and sober

26                    at the time.  She was 45 years old.  She received

27                    these calls on the phone and then would hang up;


1                    do some work to -- to find out where to obtain

2                    it; think about it; call them back; consciously

3                    making a decision to profit, as little as it may

4                    have been, by -- by performing these activities.

5                    So the moral culpability, the Crown would submit,

6                    is higher for Ms. Woods.

7                             Yes, she has no record, and yes, she's taken

8                    many, many steps to -- to move in the right

9                    direction since committing these offences, but

10                    there's a -- there's a balance that -- between

11                    the moral culpability and the personal

12                    circumstances that the Crown says puts these two

13                    cases in -- in the ballpark of Ms. Woods and --

14                    and Ms. Tobac.

15                             Ms. Tobac ultimately received six months

16                    custody and Mr. Grandjambe ten months custody,

17                    Your Honour.  And I should say, just to complete

18                    the submissions on -- on the recommendation, it's

19                    not the Crown's position that the Maskell

20                    three-year starting point is applicable.

21                    Although money was exchanged and Ms. Woods did

22                    profit, the Crown would submit that it's clearly

23                    commercial.  We -- we're saying that it's not

24                    more than a minimal scale, and therefore, the

25                    three-year starting point --

26            THE COURT:             It is a street-level

27                    trafficking as opposed to --


1            MR. PRAUGHT:           Yeah.

2            THE COURT:             -- a commercial trafficking.

3            MR. PRAUGHT:           Very minimal quantities

4                    involved.

5            THE COURT:             Yes.  What does the Crown

6                    say -- and I was -- if I can pull back for a

7                    moment, I was, of course, aware of the original

8                    application to have an entrapment hearing on

9                    these matters.  When I was reading the

10                    presentence report, what caught my attention was

11                    the fact that the phone in question was actually

12                    her ex-boyfriend's phone, who was in jail, I

13                    believe, at the time that the -- these

14                    transactions took place.  And I am assuming that

15                    Mr. Bock is going to be telling me that Ms. Woods

16                    simply gave in to the temptation to answer the

17                    phone on the -- on the occasions in question and

18                    make a small profit when she was not actually in

19                    the business of dealing cocaine herself at that

20                    point in time, which would also explain the steps

21                    that she had to take in order to acquire the

22                    cocaine.  Do you see that as mitigating under the

23                    circumstances?

24            MR. PRAUGHT:           I -- I can offer this.  My

25                    friend may take issue with some comments that

26                    I'll make now, but I can offer this: Her

27                    boyfriend, who had used that phone previously,


1                    had been in custody for ten months at that point.

2                    He was actually sentenced in February of 2017,

3                    about a month prior to this offence.  But in

4          March of 2017, he had been in custody on remand

5                    and then serving for about ten months.

6            THE COURT:             You anticipated my question.

7            MR. PRAUGHT:           And secondly, grounds were

8                    obtained.  And I believe my friend ultimately,

9                    although it was the day of entrapment hearing,

10                    came to the same -- this conclusion that there

11                    was a reasonable suspicion sufficient to inquire

12                    into that call that were -- grounds that were

13                    obtained post --

14            THE COURT:             Okay.

15            MR. PRAUGHT:           -- post-Mr. Hein being

16                    incarcerated.  So in -- in other words, the

17                    grounds were --

18            THE COURT:             I understand.

19            MR. PRAUGHT:           -- were -- were formed after

20                    his arrest.

21            THE COURT:             Thank you.

22            MR. PRAUGHT:           But I take Your Honour's

23                    point.  Although it was a dial-a-dope

24                    investigation and contact with Ms. Woods was

25                    initiated through a phone, at the end of the day,

26                    it appeared she had to take some steps to obtain

27                    the cocaine to provide to the UCs.  Now, we don't


1                    know how much she may have obtained on each of

2                    those interactions; that's speculation.  But she

3                    certainly had to go somewhere and -- at least

4                    that's what she led the UCs to believe.  And

5                    those are the facts, so --

6            THE COURT:             Okay.

7            MR. PRAUGHT:           -- it's not -- on -- on its

8                    face, it doesn't have the sophistication that a

9                    typical dial-a-dope would appear to have.

10            THE COURT:             Okay.  It does appear that

11                    she, sort of, fell into it after her boyfriend

12                    was --

13            MR. PRAUGHT:           Yeah.

14            THE COURT:             -- taken into custody.

15            MR. PRAUGHT:           Perhaps it could be described

16                    as a crime of opportunity in this case, which is

17                    unusual for a dial-a-dope and usually the exact

18                    opposite.  But in this case, it would appear that

19                    she saw an opportunity to make some money and --

20                    and took it.

21            THE COURT:             And was poor enough to give in

22                    to temptation.

23            MR. PRAUGHT:           Yeah.

24            THE COURT:             Thank you.

25            MR. PRAUGHT:           So I -- I believe in my

26                    submissions, I've addressed most of the

27                    aggravating and mitigating factors already,


1                    Your Honour.  There was financial motivation.

2                    Obviously the prevalence of this type of crime in

3                    our jurisdiction is always an important

4                    consideration and -- and is aggravating.

5                             As far as objectives of concern, the Crown

6                    would submit that deterrence and denunciation

7                    should be the primary sentencing considerations

8                    today.  Rehabilitation is always a consideration,

9                    and the sentence imposed, the Crown would

10                    certainly hope, does not impede Ms. Woods'

11                    progress to date.  We do know that there are

12                    programs in custodial facilities to assist

13                    offenders that are detained, and we would hope

14                    that she would take -- if she is given a

15                    custodial sentence here today, we hope she would

16                    take advantage of all that those programs have to

17                    offer and continue in the -- the route she's

18                    going in now.  So we submit that six to eight

19                    months with probation to assist in rehabilitation

20                    is a reasonable recommendation and should be

21                    followed.

22                             Your Honour, in anticipation of my friend's

23                    recommendation, because we have talked about this

24                    a bit, I do have one more case that I -- I would

25                    file, and this is the case of R v Joe from the

26                    Northwest Territories Court of Appeal, and I did

27                    inform my friend that I would file this.  And


1                    this is simply to support the -- the proposition

2                    that a suspended sentence is not an appropriate

3                    or a legal sentence for this offence.

4            THE COURT:             I am certainly familiar with

5                    the case.

6            MR. PRAUGHT:           And I would specifically refer

7                    to paragraph 14 in this case -- or 18, I should

8                    say.  The case didn't address that issue head on

9                    in the appeal, but that's -- that paragraph

10                    certainly would seem to -- seem to address it.

11                    So that's the -- that's the Crown's position.

12            THE COURT:             Well, and this case is of

13                    assistance in terms of laying out the landscape

14                    that we work within, right?

15            MR. PRAUGHT:           That's right.

16            THE COURT:             Thank you.

17            MR. PRAUGHT:           Pending any questions

18                    Your Honour may have, those are my submissions.

19            THE COURT:             Let me just double-check.

20                    What -- what, in fact, was the sentenced imposed

21                    in Joe?

22            MR. PRAUGHT:           At the end of the day, one

23                    year, I believe, was the sentence.  And the

24                    Court of Appeal declined to stay that sentence

25                    because some time had passed, and Ms. Joe

26                    ultimately served a year, I believe.

27            THE COURT:             Thank you.  Thank you,


1                    Mr. Praught.  Mr. Bock.

2                             Mr. Bock, I will just let you know my

3                    thoughts before you begin.  I am certainly not

4                    intending to go beyond the lesser of the two

5                    numbers provided by the Crown of six months, so

6                    your function is going to be to convince me that

7                    six months is not required.  But I am not

8                    planning on going above six months at this point.

9            MR. BOCK:              Your Honour, I would submit

10                    that that is -- the case law, if you look in

11                    Alberta and you look here, there are all kinds of

12                    different examples.  I would submit that

13                    certainly six months is probably an appropriate

14                    sentence.  That's not what I'm advocating for.

15                             I've got to know Tracey Woods over the past

16                    couple of years, and we've talked a number of

17                    times about her personal circumstances and just

18                    how difficult they are.  And reading the

19                    presentence report, reviewing it for my

20                    submissions, I guess I was quite stunned, if

21                    that's the word, or, kind of, in -- just in -- in

22                    amazement, actually, with her past, how difficult

23                    her past has been on all fronts.

24                             This is -- this is really an exceptional

25                    case, and I'm -- the theme of my presentation is

26                    that this is an exceptional case and her

27                    circumstances are very exceptional.  And I have


1                    to say that in all of the clients I've ever dealt

2                    with, I've never had anyone take the steps that

3                    she has taken over the past two years.

4            THE COURT:             I was amazed by the exhibits

5                    that you filed on this.

6            MR. BOCK:              And -- and she -- she provided

7                    those to me.  And I've never -- I -- and perhaps

8                    that clouds my judgment in terms of what I would

9                    ask for on sentence, but I think it's only fair

10                    in this case, because as I say, I've never, ever

11                    had anyone that has taken the kind of steps to

12                    use community supports, to take advantage of

13                    people and resources as she has.  And I have --

14                    and she didn't have to do it; these were all on

15                    her own initiative.

16                             So the theme that runs through my

17                    submissions is -- is that this is an exceptional

18                    case.  This is a case where there's a lot of

19                    hope; where the client has made great, great

20                    strides.  I want to point out that Lindsay Paul,

21                    the service coordinator at the women's shelter,

22                    is here; she did provide a letter.  As well as

23                    Margaret Beauchamp is here, the director of the

24                    Centre of Northern Families.  And -- and we

25                    talked before court, and -- and, you know, the --

26                    the theme of that was just that the change in

27                    Ms. Woods is -- is unbelievable, and that's


1                    positive; that's good for -- for society; it's

2                    good for Ms. Woods.  She needs to continue that,

3                    and she needs to encourage that, and that needs

4                    to be encouraged.  So I want Ms. Woods to know

5                    that whatever happens as a result of this --

6                    these submissions and this hearing, she needs to

7                    stay positive and focussed.

8                             In the submissions -- in the documents that

9                    I filed that I'm going to go through, there's a

10                    lot of very positive -- positive words, positive

11                    thoughts.  She's done a lot in the community.

12                    I've never seen anyone who -- she's had her

13                    picture in the paper.  She's -- she's done so

14                    much, and what really is sad is that this is all

15                    over what she -- a small profit of $100 that

16                    she's -- she was in a relationship with someone

17                    who got her into fentanyl.

18                             I would describe her as, sort of, a

19                    low-hanging target for their -- for the RCMP, and

20                    I think that's why, at least in my heart, I was

21                    very sympathetic to the idea of -- of the whole

22                    issue of entrapment, and that's --

23            THE COURT:             Well, one of the -- one of the

24                    interesting issues with respect to entrapment is

25                    that nobody denies that the things took place,

26                    right?

27            MR. BOCK:              Yes.


1            THE COURT:             It is simply a question of the

2                    circumstances in which they engaged in it.

3            MR. BOCK:              Exactly.  So that was

4                    something that, you know, in -- in looking at

5                    Ms. Woods' circumstances, what she told me, that

6                    that was -- that was, to me, a live issue.

7                             So the defence position that I'm going to

8                    put forth is a suspended sentence with 24 months

9                    probation.  She currently has a room at the

10                    Centre for Northern Families.  My submission

11                    would be that she would remain there at the

12                    Centre for Northern Families except for school

13                    and for -- with permission of her bail

14                    supervisor.  I understand her personal support

15                    worker takes her on a daily basis, Monday to

16                    Friday, to get her medication, and then on the

17                    weekends, the medication is picked up for her.

18                    And she takes it in the form of blister packs,

19                    and she's quite good with taking her medication.

20                             If Your Honour does not think that that --

21                    and -- and to be honest with the Court, if there

22                    is any case in the Northwest Territories where

23                    that kind of sentence is -- it could be given,

24                    it's just with everything that has been done

25                    here.  And I will talk more how this is a very

26                    exceptional case.

27                             In the alternative, the defence is


1                    suggesting that the sentence should be lower than

2                    the six months, that it should be 89 days so that

3                    she can serve the sentence intermittently so that

4                    she can continue her programming, and that she

5                    should continue to go to school.  Ms. Woods has

6                    done so much; I don't want to see that

7                    interrupted.  It's in no one's interest that that

8                    be interrupted.  I know there is programming in a

9                    custodial setting; however, Ms. Woods has shown

10                    at her own initiative, she can take a number of

11                    steps.

12                             So in terms of background, we have the

13                    presentence report.  The Crown has pointed to a

14                    number of significant Gladue factors.  I also

15                    provided a couple volumes of materials that

16                    dismiss -- that Ms. Woods had provided me over

17                    time.  There are a couple duplications and an

18                    error in the date that is my oversight.

19            THE COURT:             The picture is still clear,

20                    Mr. Bock.

21            MR. BOCK:              That -- there was so many

22                    materials.

23                             The presentence clearly recounts her

24                    difficult upbringing.  It's an amazing story of

25                    survival and resiliency.  She had a difficult

26                    childhood in the presentence report, how she was

27                    victimized since she was very little.  She was


1                    exposed to substance abuse in her home at an

2                    early age; she was exposed to various kinds of

3                    physical and emotional abuse from her mother's

4                    ex-spouse; there's some indication that she was

5                    sexually assaulted.  And quite frankly, she's

6                    been on the streets on her own since she --

7            THE COURT:             Since she was 14.

8            MR. BOCK:              -- was 14.  And she stands --

9                    she's -- she's here today with no criminal

10                    record, which is amazing.  She has been in

11                    unhealthy, abusive relationships; they've been

12                    plagued with addiction issues.  And it's

13                    interesting -- the presentence report, I think,

14                    sums it all up quite nicely -- that -- there's an

15                    indication that Ms. Woods said that throughout

16                    her life, she never felt loved or cared for.

17                             On the other hand, today we're looking at

18                    someone who has taken steps to change and to take

19                    advantage of supports.  There is comments made by

20                    Margaret Beauchamp in the letter: She's done

21                    counselling; she's going to school; she's finding

22                    housing; she does have a room now; she's dealing

23                    with her addictions.  There's some medical

24                    letters in there.  It seems that she may be able

25                    to get part-time employment with the shelter.

26                    She's engaged in volunteer activities; in fact,

27                    she's helping others and seems to be a bit of a


1                    role model.

2                             Importantly, and it's what we all talk about

3                    when we talk about wellness and addictions, that

4                    she's reached the point where there is stability

5                    in her life.  She has schooling, housing, and she

6                    has her physical and psychiatric health.  And as

7                    I said, the change is unbelievable.  She also has

8                    the support of her mother.  And I've just

9                    never -- again, I will say it if I have to say it

10                    a hundred times, I've just never seen a client

11                    that has gone through so much and made so much

12                    change on her own behalf.

13                             So just to summarize some of her personal

14                    circumstances, Ms. Woods is 46 years old.  She

15                    does have a half-sister and half-brother.

16                    Ms. Woods is the eldest.  She has a Grade 8

17                    education from Mildred Hall.  I understand in

18                    speaking to her that she might have done some

19                    further courses through the Pentecostal Church

20                    School in Chilliwack.  She might have also spent

21                    a little bit of time going back to school at

22                    Sir John Franklin.  However, due to the

23                    instability in her life, those efforts were not

24                    successful.

25                             She is of Chipewyan descent.  It says in the

26                    presentence report that she didn't meet her

27                    biological father, but I understand they met once


1                    when she was 36.  She -- pretty much born and

2                    raised in Yellowknife.  Her mother went to

3                    residential school.  There's indication in the

4                    presentence report that her mother was taken away

5                    from her parents at an early age, that her mother

6                    suffered her own trauma.  And Ms. Woods has, sort

7                    of, connected the dots in her mind and believes

8                    that perhaps her -- her mother's own experience

9                    played a role in the dysfunctional, unloving way

10                    that she was parented.

11                             For some of her childhood, she spent time

12                    with her mother and her mother's boyfriend; I'll

13                    refer to him as George (phonetic).  They were

14                    both alcoholics.  It was a very violent

15                    household; she remembers her mother being beaten.

16                    I understand that Tracey Woods would try to

17                    protect her mother and that she would run away

18                    from home.  She remembers being physically and

19                    emotionally abused on a very -- on almost a daily

20                    basis.  She remembers her stepfather saying that,

21                    Tracey is not my child; I do not like her.  She

22                    said she was treated as an outcast; that she was

23                    called a bastard; and that perhaps due to her

24                    mother's experience at residential school, she

25                    lived under very strict conditions.

26                             This is a case where Social Services was

27                    involved.  She went to live with her aunt in


1                    British Columbia when she was around 8 to 11

2                    years old.  She then stayed with her mother and

3                    then has been on her own since.  She told me that

4                    she stayed with friends, that she couch-surfed,

5                    and she also told me quite frankly that she

6                    stayed in stairwells of buildings.

7                    (Indiscernible) no, there was no place to go.

8                    She struggled with staying in school.

9                             She described that she had very few

10                    relationships, and the ones that she had ended in

11                    domestic abuse or infidelity.  Most of the

12                    relationships that she fell into involved drug

13                    abuse.  We talked a little bit about her -- her

14                    own children.  She has four daughters; I

15                    understand they were -- they reside with three

16                    different fathers.

17                             She's currently -- she currently has a -- a

18                    room at the women's shelter.  She's picked

19                    herself up, and I'm going to talk about this a

20                    little more.  She's taking Office Administrations

21                    and -- Office Administration and a trades program

22                    at the Native Women's Centre.  She's working on

23                    schooling.  I understand she's completed her

24                    Grade 10, is working on Grade 11, and has a goal

25                    of completing Grade 12 next year.  She is doing

26                    counselling; she's seeing a doctor.  She's a

27                    volunteer at the shelter; she helps with cooking


1                    and cleaning.  She's doing counselling at the

2                    Tree of Peace.

3                             And she's been struggling with an opioid

4                    addiction for some time, and according to the

5                    letters on file, she is taking Suboxone and that

6                    she seems to have been stabilized.  There is also

7                    some indication of psychotic issues that -- but

8                    her situation is --

9            THE COURT:             Well, that history would be

10                    surprising if there were not.

11            MR. BOCK:              -- due -- but she seems to be

12                    doing quite well at this point in her life.

13                             So I provided a number of materials to the

14                    Court, and I'm just going to go through them.

15                    I'm going to start with the N volume first.  And

16                    as Your Honour pointed out, it may paint a

17                    picture and current background for Ms. Woods, and

18                    again, I would say it's phenomenal.

19                             The tab 1 is a letter from Lindsay Paul, the

20                    service coordinator at the Yellowknife Women's

21                    Shelter.  It's positive; it speaks to her keeping

22                    appointments and fulfilling her obligations so

23                    that her rent is paid on time.  There are some

24                    positive comments, and I just want to quote:

25                    (As Read)

26                             I have witnessed Tracey really trying to make positive changes and

27                             participate in any opportunity to do so, and I would suggest what runs


1                             through the past year or so, couple years, has been that positive change,

2                             different decisions, and taking advantage of absolutely everything

3                             possible that's available.

4                             Tabs 2 and 3 are letters from Dr. Harris.

5                    One was written in November 2018, and the other

6                    one is from the 14th of March.  Basically, the

7                    letters talk about her doing Suboxone treatment

8                    or therapy for a history of opioid use disorder,

9                    that there's been a long-standing history of

10                    psychosis; however, that has stabilized.  And

11                    that -- the doctor notes that she has achieved

12                    stability in a number of areas, and again, this

13                    is on her own initiative.

14                             Tab 4 is from the Native Women's Association

15                    up in Northwest Territories.  This -- the

16                    documents here speak to her education and her

17                    goals, and it sums Tracey as someone who is

18                    highly motivated.  And the documents outlines

19                    what she is studying, the -- the modules.  And

20                    more importantly, at the bottom of the first page

21                    of that tab, that it states her goals.  And it's

22                    worth putting on the record that she wants to get

23                    her GED; she wants to get Grade 12, to have a

24                    nice life, to get through these couple of months,

25                    to find a new place, to have a better home, and

26                    to learn Microsoft Office.  So those are all

27                    building blocks of someone who wants to have a


1                    positive future and -- and, quite frankly, to

2                    make a difference.

3                             Tab Number 5 is a certificate.  The

4                    program -- program is Foundations for Success.

5                    Tab Number 6 is a certificate from October 2018;

6                    it's completing some business entrepreneurial

7                    skills, training.  Tab Number 7 is useful because

8                    it is her resumé, and it outlines -- highlights

9                    her skills; it outlines -- it also outlines

10                    her -- her work history, types of jobs that she's

11                    had.  I guess in the more distant past, that

12                    she's been a cook, a general helper; she's worked

13                    as a cashier; she's worked as a chambermaid, and

14                    she's worked as a waitress.

15                             The next volume -- and these are just

16                    documents that -- I encouraged Ms. Woods to get

17                    some letters, but I also encouraged her to bring

18                    in anything where she was involved.  So tab 1

19                    is -- you'll notice that Tracey Woods is in the

20                    picture.  It's taken from A Better Day.  She's

21                    quoted in the article; it's where she received

22                    her computer, and it's something that she said

23                    that would -- would help her with her studies.

24                             Tab 2 -- and I agree with the Crown that

25                    there are some issues with the dates.  The

26                    purpose of this -- Ms. Woods had given me her

27                    schedule for counselling.  Tab Number 3 is,


1                    again, showing that she's -- the programming,

2                    schooling, education she's taking is -- is

3                    helping her with her basic skills, and it's a

4                    completion of a math -- math course, or most

5                    improved in Math 120.  Tab Number 5 is the

6                    completion of English 120.  Tab Number 6 is a

7                    duplicate of tab 3; I apologize for that.

8                    Tab Number 7 is the completion of the English 120

9                    course.  Tab Number 8 is a duplicate.

10                    Tab Number 9 is an attendance certificate.

11                    Tab Number 10 is an award that -- or it's a

12                    certificate for -- for beating an award.

13                             Tab Numbers 11 and 12 are a little more

14                    dated, the letters from Dr. Harris, but they do

15                    speak and provide some more information on her

16                    medical history.  I apologize, Tab Number 12 is

17                    actually an application that she filled out for a

18                    disability.  Tab Number 14 is another counselling

19                    log.  Tab Number -- sorry, Tab Number 14 is a

20                    letter from the Native Women's Association of the

21                    Northwest Territories.  It's just confirming

22                    enrollment in adult education programming.

23                             Tab Number 15 is another newspaper article.

24                    Tracey Woods is carrying the Native Women's

25                    Association of the Northwest Territories in

26                    banner -- banner.  It shows she is involved in

27                    the community and she's involved with issues that


1                    are important to her.  The next tab, tab 16, is a

2                    participation in a Personality Dimensions

3                    introductory session.  It appears to be something

4                    to help promote self-help and self-awareness.

5                             Tab 17 is a report card mid-term showing her

6                    mark in sciences.  The next tab appears to be her

7                    report card.  There are -- positive comment, and

8                    again, stressing the positivity and drawing

9                    that -- her instructor said:  (As Read)

10                             She's always willing to try new ideas and works hard all the time.            This is

11                             a formula for success.

12                    Tab Number 19 is another letter from her

13                    instructor; again, it is positive.

14                             I really like the article at tab 20, and I

15                    guess the headline really summarizes -- although

16                    she didn't say it, she is quoted in the article.

17                    It says, "Never give up and never be afraid to go

18                    forward," and I really think that that summarizes

19                    a lot of what Ms. Woods is all about.  You will

20                    notice that her picture's in the -- in the bottom

21                    receiving her award, and she is quoted -- it

22                    talks a little bit about -- she says: (As Read)

23                             "I feel thankful that I keep going and I keep pushing myself," she said,

24                             wiping tears from her eyes.

25                    I understand -- she had told me that she'd broken

26                    her leg and that did interfere a little bit with

27                    some of her schooling, but she got right back to


1                    it; she wrote all her exams and she passed.  She

2                    said, It was hard, but I still did it.  She said,

3                    I'm proud of myself.  So it just speaks, again,

4                    to the -- her resiliency and her being someone

5                    who really, really tries to be a success and --

6                    and move forward.

7                             The next tab, tab 21, is -- and that's --

8                    again, we -- we have a perseverance award for

9                    her, and how much more appropriate could -- could

10                    that be given her circumstances?  Tab Number 22

11                    is a mathematics award.  The next tab, tab 23, is

12                    a completion of science certificate.  Tab 24 is a

13                    completion of an English course.

14                             Tab 25 is another letter from Dr. Harris

15                    from August 2018.  Indicates she is very

16                    compliant with the treatments that she receives.

17                    I like the last -- the last sentence, I think, is

18                    appropriate.  The doctor, Dr. Harris, says:

19                    (As Read)

20                             I would suggest that Tracey would be stabilized outside of these hard-won

21                             supports which have allowed her to move forward with her health and her

22                             future.

23                    Tab Number 26 is just an acceptance notice that

24                    she received getting into the office training

25                    program.

26                             And finally, the last tab in this booklet is

27                    a letter from Lindsay Paul from the


1                    Yellowknife Women's Shelter.  It's an extremely

2                    positive letter, and it really does -- it starts

3                    off by saying:  (As Read)

4                             This letter is to support

Tracey Woods, who has been making

5                             positive strides within the community and with her life choices.

6

7                    It talks about her positive attitude, her

8                    positive behaviour.  She is paying her rent on

9                    time; she's doing schooling; she wants to go to

10                    Aurora College eventually; she's active in the

11                    community; she encourages others to participate.

12                    It talks about some of what she's interested and

13                    how she enjoys cooking, that she will often

14                    volunteer, helps enjoying others, and there's a

15                    reference to the newspaper article for that

16                    award.  So those paint a picture of someone who

17                    is, in my view -- respectful submission,

18                    extraordinary, and I don't think we see someone

19                    like that with these charges -- with this charge

20                    before the Court.

21                             So what can be said about Tracey Woods?  So

22                    she has made great strides in overcoming her

23                    past.  As indicated, she's been living on her own

24                    since she was 14; she's been exposed to the drug

25                    trade and opiates through past relationships.

26                    And Ms. Woods, in many respects, has been a

27                    vulnerable participant in all of this.  The


1                    documents speak to her own efforts and

2                    motivation, and as I indicated, this motivation

3                    comes from her.  It's not because of court orders

4                    or probation.  So she's used practically

5                    everything possible to put the pieces of her life

6                    together that are available in the community.

7                             So it's extraordinary that she's come this

8                    far and continues showing stability in terms of

9                    getting medical and psychological help.  The

10                    updates from her doctor are very encouraging and

11                    positive.  She's taken positive steps to deal

12                    with addiction issues; she's pursuing education;

13                    she's gaining life skills; she's motivated; she's

14                    resilient; she shows perseverance; she works

15                    hard; she's involved in the community and to some

16                    extent, acts as a role model.

17                             We all -- and I understand that recently,

18                    there has been a drug treatment court for her

19                    attempts to establish that.  I don't really know

20                    too -- too much about it, but when we see someone

21                    like Ms. Woods, that is really the outcome that

22                    we would like to see from people who have been

23                    dealing in many ways with their own trauma and

24                    with their own addiction.  She's an example of

25                    someone who's making a change in her life, and

26                    she's making positive choices.  She's -- she's

27                    gone from someone who has been an addicted


1                    offender to someone who is undergoing ongoing

2                    rehabilitation.

3                             And I really believe that Ms. Woods can be

4                    characterized -- or in the past could be

5                    characterized as someone who is -- is vulnerable.

6                    We all know the path to self-help is not a

7                    straight one; it's a very curved one, and it's

8                    because of various choices that we make.  And

9                    defence submits that because of her relationship

10                    with Mr. Hein, it was very difficult for her to

11                    make those choices, and those -- that

12                    relationship had a lasting effect on her.

13                             She's learned from her past mistakes.  She

14                    has a letter that she's going to read.  Defence

15                    submits that sending her -- while the Court is

16                    absolutely correct that in this jurisdiction,

17                    sentences most likely range from 6 to 12 months

18                    for this type of offence; however, defence

19                    submits that this is someone that sending her

20                    to -- for a period of custody would interrupt

21                    that progress, that for Ms. Woods, it could even

22                    be regressive.  I understand that sending her to

23                    custody in something other than an intermittent

24                    sentence would most likely cause her to lose

25                    her -- her room, so there are consequences for

26                    Ms. Woods there.

27                             And defence submits that supervised


1                    probation is a restriction of her freedom, that

2                    suspended sentences, in the right circumstances,

3                    can be deterrent.  Certainly a breach of a

4                    suspended sentence can result in revocation of

5                    the sentence and sentencing on the original

6                    offence, and defence submits that this is

7                    something that's -- in this case, is the -- in

8                    the public interest.  It's really in the public

9                    interest when someone who is dealing with drugs

10                    appears to be -- have taken the steps to be

11                    rehabilitated and to take those stops on her own.

12                    And I wonder, Your Honour, what is it in the

13                    public interest that a conventional sentence of

14                    imprisonment would do that she hasn't already

15                    done?

16                             And everything that I have reviewed, that I

17                    know about Ms. Woods -- the documents show that

18                    she is exceptional.  In my view, a suspended

19                    sentence is something that is there for the Court

20                    to consider.  A conditional sentence order is an

21                    illegal sentence or probation is an illegal

22                    sentence.  But certainly, protecting the

23                    public -- protecting the public is served in this

24                    case by allowing Ms. Woods to continue down the

25                    path that she started on her own initiative, and

26                    I really applaud all of the people who have been

27                    supporting her and all of the community helpers


1                    that she has had; two of them are here.  And I

2                    have to applaud Ms. Woods for -- for taking all

3                    of the steps that -- that she has taken.

4                             I do want to make a couple comments on the

5                    cases.  I'm not going to say too much, because I

6                    think they're fairly obvious.  Certainly in the

7                    case of Tony Tobac, it seems to me -- I'm not

8                    sure that she has the insight that Ms. Woods has.

9                    I'm not sure that she had made the positive kinds

10                    of changes that Ms. Woods has, and that Ms. Tobac

11                    also had a criminal record.

12                             I would suggest -- and the last case

13                    comments I have are Melinda -- the Melinda Joe

14                    case, and I -- I submit, Your Honour,

15                    respectfully that the circumstances of

16                    Melinda Joe are in no way comparable to those of

17                    Ms. Woods.  The issue -- the amounts -- well, her

18                    personal circumstances -- that when we come to

19                    the actual facts of the trafficking and the

20                    drugs, the amount of drugs was -- was much more,

21                    and I would respectfully submit that the

22                    sentencing judge was swept up in her personal

23                    circumstances, and the sentence in itself was

24                    illegal.  And at the outset, the defence and

25                    Crown agreed that an appropriate sentence -- in

26                    fact, I don't believe I was asking for a

27                    suspended sentence with probation; I think I was


1                    asking for something like six months in -- in

2                    that case.

3            THE COURT:             You were Ms. Joe's counsel?

4            MR. BOCK:              Pardon?

5            THE COURT:             You were Ms. Joe's counsel?

6            MR. BOCK:              Yes, I was Ms. Joe's counsel.

7                    And the issue, then, for the appeal -- because we

8                    wanted to skirt around the issue of what was an

9                    appropriate sentence.  The issue for the appeal

10                    was -- she had been on probation for, I think,

11                    six months at the time of the appeal, and the

12                    real issue was whether or not she would qualify

13                    for a stay of the custody and that she could

14                    serve the remainder of the sentence on probation.

15                             Certainly to be fair, the -- Ms. Joe's

16                    behaviour on probation was lukewarm, that -- that

17                    she was not -- she didn't take a lot of steps

18                    to -- to -- to seek counselling and to do all of

19                    the things that you would expect someone would be

20                    taking.  So we didn't really -- we -- everyone

21                    knew the sentence was illegal, and in her case,

22                    we knew that the -- the sentence that she

23                    received was not appropriate.  My submission was

24                    that the year was appropriate; I believe that

25                    that was Crown's submission as well.  And the

26                    issue was simply whether she passed the tests of

27                    the Court and done the correct -- done the


1                    appropriate things in order for her to have a

2                    stay of her period in custody.

3                             To the best of my knowledge, there is --

4                    there is still no case that -- that says that a

5                    suspended sentence with probation is an illegal

6                    sentence, but -- and I've done my best to

7                    research cases in the Northwest Territories and

8                    other jurisdictions, and all of the -- the cases

9                    really seem to point to, there has to be

10                    something really exceptional about this case in

11                    order to even consider that.  Because we all know

12                    that -- we know the effect of trafficking; we

13                    know the effect -- whether it's the Yukon; there

14                    are all kinds of cases that talk about the effect

15                    of trafficking in the Yukon.  There are all kinds

16                    of cases in the Northwest Territories that talk

17                    to the devastating effect of trafficking in -- in

18                    crack cocaine, other drugs in the

19                    Northwest Territories, how it disrupts families,

20                    how it disrupts communities.

21                             Certainly Melinda Joe (sic) has insight and

22                    knows how drugs can affect someone, and that this

23                    is a case, Your Honour, in defence submission,

24                    where the Court could consider possibly

25                    suspending the passage of sentence with

26                    probation.  As I said, the Crown's position --

27                    and six months is reasonable.  I suggest that the


1                    Court, given all of the circumstances and the

2                    steps that Ms. Joe has -- has taken, consider

3                    something certainly less, and that would allow

4                    Ms. Joe to continue on with her progress.  I -- I

5                    don't want to see that progress stopped or -- or

6                    interfered with.

7                             I know Ms. Joe has a letter -- a brief

8                    letter that -- that she wrote, but unless there

9                    are any questions, those are my submissions.

10            THE COURT:             Thank you, Mr. Bock.  Any

11                    comments, Mr. Praught, before we move on to

12                    Ms. Woods?

13            MR. PRAUGHT:           Just on the possibility of a

14                    suspended sentence, Your Honour, I think

15                    paragraph 18 in the Joe case is quite clear: The

16                    Court does not say that the sentence of three

17                    years probation is illegal because the passing of

18                    that sentence was not suspended; it says it's

19                    illegal since a conditional sentence order was

20                    not available.  So I think that -- they provide

21                    the reasons why they find that a probation is not

22                    a legal sentence.  It's not because of what's

23                    suspended; it's because the CSO was not

24                    available, and that --

25            THE COURT:             But I -- but I take Joe to

26                    mean -- meaning that I take from Joe in dealing

27                    with, what was on its face, an illegal


1                    sentence -- the impact of the decision is more

2                    the primacy of deterrence and denunciation in

3                    these sorts of -- these sorts of cases, right, in

4                    terms of what the -- what the Court decided to do

5                    with Ms. Joe in the end.  So that is the -- that

6                    is the point that I take from it.  I mean,

7                    clearly a suspended sentence is not an illegal

8                    sentence, but case law would urge me to consider

9                    something other than a suspended sentence.  Is

10                    that a fair assessment?

11            MR. PRAUGHT:           The Crown would submit that a

12                    suspended sentence, given the language in Joe,

13                    would be -- would not be a legal sentence.

14            THE COURT:             Would not be a legal sentence?

15            MR. PRAUGHT:           A legal sentence.  And we

16                    would also --

17            THE COURT:             Well, it would not be an

18                    appropriate sentence as defined by JoeIt would

19                    be legal; in other words, it is supported by

20                    the -- it is supported by the law.  You can get a

21                    suspended sentence for manslaughter, but it would

22                    not be one that would survive appellate scrutiny.

23            MR. PRAUGHT:           I'm just going by the language

24                    in paragraph 18, Your Honour, where the Court

25                    says that the probation was not -- was -- is

26                    illegal, and the reason for that finding was that

27                    the CSO was --


 

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THE

COURT:

 

 

 

Yes.

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MR.

PRAUGHT:

 

 

 

-- not available.  So --

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THE

COURT:

 

 

 

But there is nothing in the

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Criminal

--

and

I

do not want to get into an --

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MR.

PRAUGHT:

 

 

 

Yeah, no.

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THE

COURT:

 

 

 

-- argument with you,

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Mr. Praught, but there is nothing in the

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Criminal Code that makes a suspended sentence --

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MR.

PRAUGHT:           Yeah.

10

THE

COURT:             -- illegal, but I would take

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Joe as saying that a suspended sentence is not

 

12                    appropriate in a case like this.

13            MR. PRAUGHT:           Yeah, and -- and I appreciate

14                    the distinction Your Honour is making, and I

15                    just -- I -- I do -- I have the Geiger case as

16                    well as reference in that same paragraph in the

17                    Alberta Court of Appeal, which goes into the

18                    rationale for probation, as it were, not being

19                    appropriate.  The CSO is tantamount with, more or

20                    less, the same thing in -- in the circumstances.

21                    And I guess the Crown's submission at the end of

22                    the day is that whether or not it's suspended

23                    doesn't change that fact.

24            THE COURT:             Ms. Woods.

25            THE ACCUSED:           Your Honour, I am very sorry

26                    for my wrong actions.  I know that drugs are bad

27                    for people.  I have gained my lifestyle.  I have


1                    been going to counselling, and I'm presently

2                    going to the Native Women's School working

3                    towards my GED.  I have been spending my weekends

4                    with my family.  I know that these changes have

5                    been made -- made a difference, and I am moving

6                    towards -- oh, sorry, now I'm moving forward with

7                    my life.  I just want to say I'm sorry.

8            THE COURT:             Okay.  Thank you.

9                             I will order a transcript of today's

10                    proceedings in their entirety.  The facts were

11                    read in and the comments that were made by both

12                    the Crown and the defence form an integral part

13                    of the sentencing in this case, and I want the

14                    transcript to accurately reflect that.

15                             Mr. Bock, you did an exceptional job for

16                    your client.

17            MR. BOCK:              Thank you, sir.

18            THE COURT:             I often struggle with the

19                    distinction between rehabilitation, denunciation,

20                    and deterrence, because we end up dealing with

21                    individuals, people like yourself, Ms. Woods, who

22                    have made extraordinary efforts to try to get

23                    their lives together, and I give you full and

24                    complete credit for that, as well as the people

25                    who have assisted you.  It is important work.  It

26                    is important work that you are doing for

27                    yourself, and it is important work that has been


1                    done to help you.

2                             This case is exceptional in terms of the

3                    history that you bring with you and the steps

4                    that you have taken to try to overcome your past

5                    and the handicaps that that past has burdened you

6                    with.  You had a horrible childhood; you had a

7                    horrible life as an adult; you lived an

8                    out-of-control, vulnerable life from the time you

9                    were a little child, and the Court cannot help

10                    but be mindful of that.

11                             One of the reasons why I have ordered that

12                    the full transcript be prepared as opposed to

13                    simply my reasons is that I do not believe that I

14                    can do justice in short form to all of the work

15                    that Mr. Bock has put into presenting your

16                    situation to the Court.  The presentence report

17                    is excellent in its description of your life and

18                    the work that you have done.

19                             The Court of Appeal has made it clear that I

20                    must give great weight to denunciation and

21                    deterrence, and that is general deterrence in

22                    this case.  I believe that you are personally

23                    deterred.  I do not believe you are going to do

24                    this again.

25            THE ACCUSED:           No.

26            THE COURT:             And it is important that the

27                    Court send a consistent message when dealing with


1                    people that are facing the temptation to engage

2                    in the drug trade.  And as Mr. Bock and

3                    Mr. Praught have, either today or on other

4                    occasions, clearly stated, it is a plague on our

5                    communities; it is not a simple question of

6                    recreation.  Hard drugs -- especially opioids, as

7                    you well know, and crack cocaine -- cut a swath

8                    through communities that does damage that, in

9                    many cases, is almost irreparable.  People are

10                    destroyed by it, and the Court has to recognize

11                    that.

12                             I am going to do the utmost that I believe I

13                    can for you, bearing in mind the case law that

14                    has to guide my actions.  I have dealt with the

15                    case of a young man who was engaged in the

16                    trafficking trade of cocaine who came before me

17                    on a guilty plea having spent a year in in-house

18                    treatment getting himself better.  I gave him a

19                    six-month sentence.  It was the best I could do

20                    under the circumstances.

21                             Your circumstances are even more sympathetic

22                    than his.  The life that you have suffered

23                    through that put you in a position of

24                    vulnerability where you gave in to this kind of

25                    temptation is one that I must take into account

26                    to a great extent.  We often hear of the Gladue

27                    factors, the factors that we have to take into


1                    account when dealing with Indigenous people.  But

2                    those factors are broadly defined.  Your life

3                    is -- is yours, and your particular life has been

4                    particularly difficult, and I take that into full

5                    account.

6                             I do not believe that I can impose an

7                    intermittent sentence.  I can go below what the

8                    Crown is asking for.  I think that the lowest I

9                    can possibly go in this exceptional case is four

10                    months.  I am going to make a recommendation on

11                    the Warrant of Committal that Ms. Paul be

12                    contacted by Corrections in order to maintain

13                    whatever education and programming that you are

14                    currently engaged in.  I am going to make a

15                    recommendation that you be considered for early

16                    release, both for education and for treatment

17                    reasons.

18                             I will make a recommendation that --

19                    Mr. Bock, perhaps you can -- are there any

20                    further suggestions you can make in terms of the

21                    strong recommendations that I can make at this

22                    point in time?

23            MR. BOCK:              She was saying about getting

24                    her things together, but perhaps one of her

25                    supports that are here could assist her with

26                    that.

27            THE ACCUSED:           Oh, sorry.


1            THE COURT:             I indicated at the beginning,

2                    Ms. Woods, I am bound by the decisions of the

3                    Court of Appeal, and I am bound by precedent,

4                    meaning other cases that have come before and by

5                    parity.  I do not think this Court has ever gone

6                    below six months before, not that I know of.  So

7                    four months is an exceptional sentence, and it

8                    takes into account what I believe are truly

9                    exceptional circumstances in your case, not just

10                    the hard life that you had, but all the hard work

11                    that you have done to get to this point.  It is

12                    the lowest I think I can go.  I wish that I had

13                    the option of a conditional sentence, because

14                    that is what I would impose in this case.  I do

15                    not have that option.  It would be an illegal

16                    sentence.

17                             Ancillary orders -- and, Mr. Bock, I was

18                    going to ask you, is there anything else you

 

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would like me to recommend in terms of the

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Warrant of Committal that may allow for further

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transition back?

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MR.

BOCK:              Perhaps the presentence report

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could be attached to the Warrant of Committal.

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THE

COURT:             I would have no problem with

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that.  Do you have a problem with it,

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Mr. Praught?

27

MR.

PRAUGHT:           No, Your Honour.


1            THE COURT:             The presentence report will be

2                    attached to the Warrant of Committal.  Did you

3                    want any of the exhibits attached as well?  What

4                    I will make as a recommendation on the Warrant of

5                    Committal is that the staff at Corrections review

6                    the documents that you filed, Mr. Bock, with a

7                    view to coming up with the most effective options

8                    for Ms. Woods.

9                             What I am worried about, and what I want to

10                    strongly encourage Corrections, is that I want to

11                    make sure that this sentence does not undue the

12                    hard work that you made, Ms. Woods.  I want

13                    Corrections to do everything that they can to

14                    make sure that -- especially the treatment that

15                    you have been taking and the education that you

16                    have been working on is maintained.  I do not

17                    know what they can do, but I know that there is a

18                    lot of programming available at the institution

19                    here.  And again, as I said, the temporary

20                    absence and the early release is something they

21                    should strongly consider.

22                             Probation for two years: You will report

23                    within three days after your release and after

24                    that as directed; to take whatever treatment as

25                    recommended for you by Probation Services.  You

26                    are to reside as directed by your probation

27                    officer, which I am hoping is back where you are


1                    currently residing.  The most that you would

2                    serve is two thirds of that, which is about two

3                    and a half months.  I am hopeful that after that

4                    two and a half months -- and I am hoping it is

5                    going to be a little less than that, given my

6                    recommendations here -- you can continue on with

7                    the things that you are doing and get back on

8                    track.  That is my sincere hope, and I wish you

9                    the best on that.

10                             With respect to the probation order, I do

11                    not think anything beyond treatment and

12                    counselling is appropriate, and all I can do is

13                    wish you the best.

14                             I will review that transcript prior to it

15                    being published.  Thank you, Madam Clerk.  Is

16                    there anything further, counsel?

17            MR. PRAUGHT:           Your Honour, the two -- the

18                    ancillary orders, have we been --

19            THE COURT:             Section 109 firearms order.

20                    Thank you, Mr. Praught.  Victims-of-crime

21                    surcharge waived for reasons of hardship, and I

22                    will make a DNA order under the circumstances,

23                    given the nature of the offence and given the

24                    fact that I do not expect your client to be

25                    seriously disadvantaged by it.

26                             Thank you again, Mr. Praught, Mr. Bock.

27            MR. PRAUGHT:           Thank you.


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5                             I, the undersigned, hereby certify that the

6            foregoing transcribed pages are a complete and

7            accurate transcript of the digitally recorded

8            proceedings taken herein to the best of my skill and

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10                    Dated at the City of Edmonton, Province of

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