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             R. v. Bonnetrouge 2013 NWTSC 93          S-1-CR-2009-000081



                IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES



                IN THE MATTER OF:



                                HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN



                                        - v -



                              ROBERT WALTER BONNETROUGE



             __________________________________________________________

             Transcript of the Reasons for Sentence (Dangerous

             Offender application) delivered by The Honourable Justice

             L. A. Charbonneau, sitting in Yellowknife, in the Northwest

             Territories, on the 18th day of November, A.D. 2013.

             __________________________________________________________



             APPEARANCES:

             Mr. M. Lecorre:                Counsel for the Crown

             Mr. J. Bran:                   Counsel for the Accused



                   (Charges under s. 271 x2 and 279(2) x2 of the
                            Criminal Code of Canada)

                   BY COURT ORDER, INFORMATION THAT MAY IDENTIFY THE
                 COMPLAINANTS REFERRED TO IN THE PROCEEDINGS AND IN THE
             EXHIBITS FILED MAY NOT BE PUBLISHED, BROADCAST OR TRANSMITTED
             IN ANY MANNER, PURSUANT TO SECTION 486.4 OF THE CRIMINAL CODE






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         1      THE COURT:             I want to remind everyone that

         2          there is a publication ban in effect with respect

         3          to these proceedings which prohibits the

         4          publication and broadcast of any information that

         5          could identify not only the two complainants in

         6          the matters that led to this hearing but also

         7          with respect to any other victims of any other

         8          offences that were referred to in the evidence.

         9          There is extensive documentary evidence that has

        10          been filed in this case and marked as an exhibit.

        11          The publication or broadcast of any information

        12          that could identify any of those earlier victims

        13          is also prohibited.

        14               I was not able to find specific notes about

        15          whether the issue of ancillary orders was

        16          addressed during submissions.  By this I mean

        17          DNA, firearms prohibition, and SOIRA order.

        18          Could be just my notes are incomplete on that.

        19          They all seem to be mandatory orders with these

        20          type of offences.  I did not see anything in Part

        21          XXIV that would remove these orders from being

        22          mandatory.  So my understanding of things is that

        23          they should be made, but I just could not find

        24          specific notes.  There were a lot of things that

        25          were addressed in submissions and everyone was

        26          focused on, obviously, the larger part of the

        27          decision.  But do you have any recollection of






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         1          those issues being addressed, Mr. Bran?

         2      MR. BRAN:              I don't recall specifically

         3          addressing those issues.  My understanding is the

         4          same as Your Honour's comments.  And I'm not sure

         5          that they were in any of the written submissions

         6          either.

         7      THE COURT:             No, I thought it was --  I

         8          thought somehow I neglected to make a note of it,

         9          but I looked and couldn't find any reference to

        10          it.  So, in fact, what you are saying reassures

        11          me.  I cannot think of why the orders would not

        12          be made in a case like this.  Mr. Lecorre, you

        13          were not at the hearing, but you are in

        14          agreement, essentially?

        15      MR. LECORRE:           Yes, I am.  And just for the

        16          record, Ms. Boucher sends her apologies.  She's

        17          ill today and has asked me to attend to receive

        18          the decision.  If the Crown for some reason did

        19          not ask that you make the ancillary orders, the

        20          Crown asks that Your Honour do so now.

        21      THE COURT:             I will first deal with

        22          ancillary orders.  Given the types of offences

        23          for which Mr. Bonnetrouge was convicted of, it is

        24          appropriate that there be a firearm prohibition

        25          order that would commence today and expire ten

        26          years from his release.  Any firearms in his

        27          possession will be surrendered forthwith.






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         1          Knowing how long he has been on remand, I know

         2          that is not an issue.  There will also be a DNA

         3          order as the offences of sexual assault are

         4          primary designated offences.  Finally, there will

         5          be an order that he comply with the requirements

         6          of the Sexual Offender Identification

         7          Registration Act for a period of 20 years.

         8               I want to reiterate my thanks to counsel for

         9          the manner in which this hearing was conducted,

        10          for the quality of materials and quality of

        11          submissions that were presented, all of which

        12          were of great assistance to the Court in reaching

        13          what was a difficult decision.

        14               This is an application by the Crown to have

        15          Robert Bonnetrouge declared a dangerous offender

        16          and sentenced to an indeterminate term of

        17          imprisonment.

        18               The application was made after

        19          Mr. Bonnetrouge was found guilty by a jury on two

        20          counts of sexual assault and two counts of

        21          unlawful confinement.

        22               The hearing proceeded in April 2013.  The

        23          predicate offences date back to 2009.  There has

        24          been considerable delay in bringing this matter

        25          to its conclusion, and there were many reasons

        26          for this.  I want to refer to those reasons

        27          briefly, for the record.






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         1               First, there were significant delays in the

         2          trial process.  The first attempt to hold a jury

         3          trial was in May 2010 in Fort Providence and it

         4          resulted in a mistrial because of difficulties in

         5          empaneling the jury.  A second attempt was made

         6          to hold a trial, this time in Yellowknife, in

         7          January of 2011.  The trial proceeded at that

         8          time, but after several hours of deliberations,

         9          the jury reported that they were at an impasse

        10          and the presiding judge declared a mistrial.  The

        11          trial was set for the third time to proceed in

        12          September 2011 in Yellowknife.  It was at the

        13          conclusion of that trial that Mr. Bonnetrouge was

        14          found guilty by the jury.

        15               The process of the Crown bringing the

        16          dangerous offender application involved delays as

        17          well.  In November 2011, the Crown applied for an

        18          assessment order, pursuant to Section 752.1 of

        19          the Criminal Code, and the order was granted.

        20          The assessment period was extended twice to

        21          permit its completion.  The report was finally

        22          received in June 2012.  By that point, defence

        23          indicated that it was attempting to make

        24          arrangements to have a second assessment

        25          completed and, understandably, that took some

        26          time to arrange.  That second assessment was

        27          eventually completed and, in the meantime, a






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         1          hearing date was set aside for April of 2013.

         2          The hearing proceeded at that time and there was

         3          a further adjournment to allow for the

         4          preparation of transcripts of the evidence and

         5          for counsel to prepare written submissions.

         6          Final oral submissions were made to the Court on

         7          August 28th, 2013.

         8               In finding Mr. Bonnetrouge guilty of the

         9          four charges that he was facing at trial, the

        10          jury necessarily had to have accepted the

        11          testimony of the two complainants.  This is not a

        12          verdict that left any ambiguity as to what facts

        13          were found such that as I, as the trial judge,

        14          would be required to make findings of fact.

        15               The two complainants, M.E. and A.L., were 16

        16          years old at the time of the events, July 4th,

        17          2009.  That night they went to Mr. Bonnetrouge's

        18          house with another male person.  They all

        19          consumed alcohol, and the other man passed out at

        20          some point.  They testified that when they

        21          decided to leave, Mr. Bonnetrouge would not let

        22          them leave.  He dragged them to one of the rooms

        23          in the house and closed the door.  He attempted

        24          to remove M.E.'s pants but was not able to

        25          because she was wearing a belt.  He was, however,

        26          able to take A.L.'s pants down and had forcible

        27          sexual intercourse with her.






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         1               The evidence at trial was that both girls

         2          tried to resist him.  M.E. said he struck them

         3          while in the room and that A.L. had bruises after

         4          this.  M.E. testified that as Mr. Bonnetrouge was

         5          raping A.L., he was also preventing M.E. from

         6          leaving by holding on to her sweater.

         7               That is a summary of the facts as they came

         8          out in the evidence of the complainants at the

         9          trial.

        10               A considerable amount of evidence was

        11          adduced at the April hearing.  A lot of

        12          documentary evidence was filed by consent.  This

        13          evidence included documents setting out the

        14          details of the criminal offences that

        15          Mr. Bonnetrouge has been convicted of prior to

        16          the 2009 offences as well as the sentences that

        17          he received for those earlier convictions.  There

        18          were also documents retracing his correctional

        19          history, setting out where he has been

        20          incarcerated over the years; programs he has

        21          taken during his various jail terms; how he

        22          performed; his behaviour and attitudes towards

        23          programming during those sentences; assessments

        24          that he has undergone.  The documents also

        25          include general information about

        26          Mr. Bonnetrouge's conduct while he was in custody

        27          and some of the attitudes he displayed with






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         1          respect to the victims of his past offences.

         2               Witnesses were also called at the hearing,

         3          including the two experts who assessed

         4          Mr. Bonnetrouge.  Dr. Scott Woodside, a

         5          psychiatrist, was called by the Crown.  Dr. Mark

         6          Nesca, a psychologist, was called by Defence.

         7          Generally speaking, their evidence pertained to

         8          Mr. Bonnetrouge's diagnoses, the assessment of

         9          his risk, their opinions about whether that risk

        10          could be managed in the future and, if so, how.

        11               The Crown also called Cindy Sparvier and

        12          Bruce Anderson.  These witnesses testified about

        13          intake and classification procedures for federal

        14          inmates, the programs that are available in the

        15          federal correctional system and, once offenders

        16          are on parole, the level of supervision that is

        17          available in the community, as well as some of

        18          the processes that are in place for the

        19          supervision of offenders who are on long-term

        20          supervision orders.

        21               This application is governed by Part XXIV of

        22          the Criminal Code.  There are certain procedural

        23          requirements that must be complied with in order

        24          for an application like this one to be

        25          entertained by the Court.  In this case, all

        26          these requirements have been met.

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         1          court has to examine in an application like this

         2          one.  The first is whether the offender meets the

         3          criteria to be declared a dangerous offender as

         4          defined in Section 753(1)(a) or paragraph (b) of

         5          the Criminal Code.  The second issue only arises

         6          if the Court is satisfied that the offender does

         7          meet the criteria and should be declared a

         8          dangerous offender.  If that is the case, the

         9          Court has to determine what sentence should be

        10          imposed, and paragraph 753(4) gives the Court

        11          three options.  The first is a sentence of

        12          detention in the penitentiary for an

        13          indeterminate period of time; the second is a

        14          sentence that must be at least two years and is

        15          followed by a period of long-term supervision

        16          order, which can be for a maximum of ten years;

        17          the third is to sentence the offender under the

        18          usual sentencing regime.

        19               Paragraph 753(4.1) states that the Court

        20          shall impose an indeterminate sentence unless it

        21          is satisfied that there is a reasonable

        22          expectation that one of the other two sentencing

        23          options will adequately protect the public.

        24               A number of cases were filed by counsel.

        25          Those cases address various elements of the

        26          statutory framework and they were very helpful to

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         1          these reasons, but I have reviewed them all.

         2               With respect to the first issue:  Whether

         3          the criteria for a dangerous offender designation

         4          have been met, based on the written and oral

         5          submissions presented at the conclusion of the

         6          hearing, I understand the issue between these

         7          parties is not whether Mr. Bonnetrouge meets the

         8          criteria to be declared a dangerous offender.

         9          Rather, the issue is what sentence should be

        10          imposed on him.  Still, for the record, I do want

        11          to outline why the evidence satisfies me beyond a

        12          reasonable doubt that Mr. Bonnetrouge meets the

        13          criteria to be designated a dangerous offender.

        14               The Criminal Code outlines various sets of

        15          criteria that can lead to such a designation.  In

        16          my view, the evidence establishes that

        17          Mr. Bonnetrouge meets the criteria for a

        18          dangerous offender designation under a few

        19          different headings.  More specifically, he meets

        20          the criteria under Section 753(1)(a)(i) and

        21          753(1)(a)(ii) as well as 753(1)(b).

        22               Section 753 says that "the court shall find

        23          the offender to be a dangerous offender if it is

        24          satisfied", under the first heading:

        25                 that the offence for which the
                           offender has been convicted is a
        26                 serious personal injury offence
                           ... and the offender constitutes a
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         1                 persons on the basis of evidence
                           establishing a pattern of
         2                 repetitive behaviour by the
                           offender, of which the offence for
         3                 which he or she has been convicted
                           forms a part, showing a failure to
         4                 restrain his or her behaviour and
                           a likelihood of causing death or
         5                 injury to other persons, or
                           inflicting severe psychological
         6                 damage on the persons, through
                           failure in the future to restrain
         7                 his or her behaviour.

         8          The designation can also be justified if the

         9          evidence establishes:

        10                 a pattern of persistent aggressive
                           behaviour by the offender, of
        11                 which the offence for which he or
                           she has been convicted forms a
        12                 part, showing a substantial degree
                           of indifference on the part of the
        13                 offender respecting the reasonably
                           foreseeable consequences to other
        14                 persons of his or her behaviour.

        15          And the final set of criteria that I find is met

        16          here is that, in my view, the Crown has

        17          established that:

        18                 the offence for which the offender
                           has been convicted is a serious
        19                 personal injury offence described
                           in the Criminal Code and the
        20                 offender by his or her conduct in
                           any sexual matter, including that
        21                 involved in the commission of the
                           offence for which he or she has
        22                 been convicted has shown a failure
                           to control his or her sexual
        23                 impulses and a likelihood of
                           causing injury, pain or other evil
        24                 to other persons through failure
                           in the future to control his or
        25                 her sexual impulses.

        26               One of the factors in determining whether a

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         1          offender's history.  The establishment of a

         2          pattern is specifically required under the two

         3          first headings that I have quoted.  Pattern is

         4          not specifically mentioned in the other

         5          paragraph, but the provision does refer to

         6          conduct "in any sexual matter" and, in

         7          particular, to "the offender's failure to control

         8          his sexual impulses".  So consideration of the

         9          offender's conduct in the past, in particular

        10          with respect to sexual offences, is relevant.

        11               Mr. Bonnetrouge's criminal history is

        12          significant and compelling.  Even considering the

        13          sexual offences on his record alone, that is a

        14          significant record.

        15               As a youth, Mr. Bonnetrouge was convicted of

        16          five separate sexual assault offences and each

        17          time was sentenced to custody under the terms of

        18          the Young Offenders Act, which was the statute in

        19          force at the time to deal with young persons.  In

        20          1993 he received a term of one-year open custody

        21          for having tried to have forced sexual

        22          intercourse with a four-year-old.  Mr. Bonnetrouge

        23          was 13 at the time.

        24               In 1994 he was sentenced to 14 months closed

        25          custody for two charges of sexual interference.

        26          These offences were committed against children.

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         1          Mr. Bonnetrouge undoing her belt and digging into

         2          her pants, and he was seen with his hand under

         3          the pants of a three-year-old.  Mr. Bonnetrouge

         4          was 16 at the time.

         5               In March 1996, Mr. Bonnetrouge was sentenced

         6          to two counts of sexual assault and one count of

         7          uttering threats.  These offences occurred when

         8          Mr. Bonnetrouge was 17 years old and incarcerated

         9          in two separate youth custodial facilities.  He

        10          sexually assaulted another 14-year-old male

        11          inmate twice, once in each facility.  After the

        12          first time, Mr. Bonnetrouge threatened to kill

        13          his victim if he reported this incident.  The

        14          victim did not report anything until after the

        15          second incident.  This was Mr. Bonnetrouge's last

        16          time being sentenced as a youth and he received a

        17          term of two and a half years' closed custody.

        18               In February 2010, Mr. Bonnetrouge was

        19          sentenced to three years' imprisonment for

        20          another sexual assault committed while he was in

        21          custody.  On that occasion, he had been placed in

        22          a cell with another male inmate.  That prisoner

        23          was sleeping and Mr. Bonnetrouge had sexual

        24          intercourse with him.

        25               Some of Mr. Bonnetrouge's other convictions,

        26          while not for sexual assaults, are also of

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         1          example, the mischief that he was sentenced for

         2          in July 2006 was for being found asleep in a

         3          stranger's house, sleeping in the bedroom of the

         4          son of the household.  The break and enter with

         5          intent he was sentenced for in September 2009 was

         6          for being found in the bathroom of a stranger's

         7          hotel room.  The tenant had a small child with

         8          her.  When they found him, they ran out and he

         9          followed them.  There was a mischief and assault

        10          that he was sentenced for also in September 2009.

        11          These offences occurred a few months before the

        12          predicate offence and arose when he was found

        13          outside the window of an 11-year-old child.

        14          Mr. Bonnetrouge assaulted the person who

        15          confronted him, and when that person ran into the

        16          house, Mr. Bonnetrouge kicked the door, but the

        17          residents managed to keep the door shut until he

        18          left.

        19               This series of events, in itself, goes a

        20          long way in illustrating the risk Mr. Bonnetrouge

        21          poses for the safety of others.  But in addition

        22          to that, Dr. Woodside and Dr. Nesca were

        23          essentially in agreement that Mr. Bonnetrouge

        24          presents a high risk to reoffend at this time.

        25               I will get back to their evidence in more

        26          detail later in these Reasons, but, for now, I

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         1          things, they did not disagree on this fundamental

         2          question that is very important as far as

         3          deciding whether Mr. Bonnetrouge should be

         4          designated as a dangerous offender:  they both

         5          agree that he presents a high risk of

         6          reoffending.  They both agree that absent

         7          significant intervention, Mr. Bonnetrouge is

         8          likely to offend again.

         9               Finally, I also have the benefit of the

        10          correctional records.  These records suggest that

        11          with respect to many of his offences,

        12          Mr. Bonnetrouge appeared to show little empathy

        13          towards his victims and little insight into his

        14          behaviour.  There are some indications that, at

        15          times, he did express some remorse.  But, there

        16          are several other indications of him not showing

        17          empathy and not taking responsibility.

        18               On the whole of the evidence, I am satisfied

        19          beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Bonnetrouge

        20          meets the criteria to be declared a dangerous

        21          offender under the provisions that I have

        22          referred to.  I want to make it clear that I have

        23          reached this conclusion without resorting to the

        24          rebuttable presumption that is set out at Section

        25          753(1.1) of the Criminal Code.  In written

        26          submissions, defence had conceded that the

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         1          on the face of the record, it is.  But I do not

         2          need to rely on it because I am satisfied that it

         3          has been positively established by the Crown,

         4          beyond a reasonable doubt, that Mr. Bonnetrouge

         5          should be declared a dangerous offender based on

         6          the criteria set out at the paragraphs that I

         7          referred to.

         8               The next question is:  What sentence should

         9          be imposed?  As I already mentioned, three

        10          sentencing options are available to the Court

        11          once it declares someone to be a dangerous

        12          offender.  Here, the defence does not suggest

        13          that a determinate sentence in the usual course

        14          would be appropriate.  This leaves the two other

        15          options, namely, sentencing Mr. Bonnetrouge to an

        16          indeterminate sentence, which is what the Crown

        17          asks, or sentencing him to a determinate sentence

        18          followed by a period of long-term supervision.

        19               As I have already stated, the Court must

        20          impose an indeterminate jail term unless it is

        21          satisfied there is a reasonable expectation that

        22          a lesser measure will adequately protect the

        23          public against the commission by the offender of

        24          murder or a serious personal injury offence.

        25               The outcome of this application, therefore,

        26          turns on this question:  Can the Court have this

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         1          adduced, that a determinate sentence followed by

         2          a long-term supervision order will adequately

         3          protect the public?  Answering this question is

         4          difficult.  Risk assessment and risk control are

         5          not exact sciences.

         6               In making this decision, the evidence of

         7          Dr. Woodside and the evidence of Dr. Nesca is

         8          very important.  But the Court must not simply

         9          defer to what the experts say.  It must make its

        10          own determination informed by the evidence of the

        11          expert witnesses (as long, of course, as the

        12          Court finds that evidence reliable).

        13               In this case, I found the evidence of both

        14          experts very helpful and very informative.  They

        15          did not agree on everything, but they were each

        16          able to explain and outline the bases for their

        17          opinions.  Neither of them answered questions

        18          that were put to them in cross-examination in a

        19          defensive or elusive manner.  One is a

        20          psychiatrist, the other is a psychologist, and

        21          they were both careful, I thought, to remain

        22          within the parameters of their areas of

        23          expertise.  They both acknowledged when a matter

        24          being raised did not fall within their area of

        25          expertise.  I have no concerns about their

        26          qualifications, and I found both of their

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         1               They each provided detailed reports which

         2          have been made exhibits.  They also testified at

         3          length at the hearing.  My intention here is not

         4          to attempt to summarize or refer to everything

         5          that they said or to the full contents of their

         6          reports.  I simply want to highlight some of the

         7          main features.

         8               Starting with Dr. Woodside, he is a

         9          psychiatrist.  He is the clinical head of the

        10          Sexual Behavioural Clinic at the Centre for

        11          Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto.  For over

        12          15 years, his work has involved the diagnosis and

        13          treatment of sexual offenders.

        14               As I have already mentioned, Dr. Woodside's

        15          conclusion is that Mr. Bonnetrouge presents a

        16          high risk to reoffend.  This conclusion is based

        17          on a number of factors that he explained in his

        18          evidence and are outlined in his report.

        19          Dr. Woodside also talked about some of the

        20          measures that could be put in place to control

        21          that risk.

        22               Dr. Woodside's conclusions about the risk

        23          that Mr. Bonnetrouge represents were based, as I

        24          said, on a number of things.  The first was

        25          Mr. Bonnetrouge's history of repeated sexual

        26          offending.  Dr. Woodside considers that past

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         1          behaviour might be.  But there were a number of

         2          other things that he considered.  He considered

         3          results of actuarial testing using certain

         4          instruments.  The tools he used, more

         5          specifically, were the Static-99, the Violent

         6          Risk Appraisal Guide, also called V-RAG, and the

         7          Sexual Offender Risk Offender Guide, also called

         8          SORAG.  Mr. Bonnetrouge's score on each of these

         9          instruments placed him in the high-risk groups as

        10          far as recidivism.  These tools measure the

        11          individual score against group data.  Their

        12          scoring on the instrument places them in a

        13          certain bin or group.  To each of these groups is

        14          attached a percentage of recidivism based on

        15          various samples taken from the prison population.

        16          Dr. Woodside said these instruments must be used

        17          with some caution.  In particular, his opinion is

        18          that little weight should be placed on the

        19          recidivism percentage attached to each group.

        20          His view, though, is that there is some

        21          significance in the score on this type of

        22          instrument as far as the category where the

        23          individual places.  It was one of the things that

        24          contributed to Dr. Woodside forming the opinion

        25          about Mr. Bonnetrouge's risk to reoffend.

        26               Another factor that is relevant to risk, of

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         1          specific diagnoses for Mr. Bonnetrouge are

         2          pedohebephilia, which means preference for

         3          prepubescent- or pubescent-aged partners.

         4          Secondly, non-consenting coercive sexual

         5          preference, which refers to the preference

         6          related to sexual activity with non-consenting

         7          partners.  In his report, Dr. Woodside's

         8          conclusion about this particular paraphelia was

         9          not as firm as the first one, but it was

        10          reinforced by some things that came out in the

        11          hearing during Dr. Nesca's testimony, more

        12          particularly the admission by Mr. Bonnetrouge

        13          that at the time he was assessed by Dr. Nesca, he

        14          reported having active fantasies of rape and

        15          things of that sort.

        16               The other diagnosis that Dr. Woodside

        17          arrived at was that Mr. Bonnetrouge suffers from

        18          antisocial personality disorder.  He also

        19          diagnosed with substance dependance disorder.

        20          And Dr. Woodside concluded that Mr. Bonnetrouge

        21          suffers from cognitive deficiencies.

        22               The conclusion that Mr. Bonnetrouge has

        23          antisocial personality disorder is not

        24          particularly surprising when dealing with someone

        25          who has had considerable difficulties with the

        26          law.  It is a very common disorder in prison

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         1          disorder that relates to an individual's degree

         2          of antisocial or criminal orientation.

         3               At the high end of the spectrum of

         4          antisociality, one would find psychopathy.

         5          Dr. Woodside did an assessment of Mr. Bonnetrouge

         6          using an instrument called the Hare Psychopathy

         7          Checklist-Revised (PCL-R).  Using this

         8          instrument, the subject is scored against certain

         9          criteria and the result is a score between zero

        10          and forty.  If the score is thirty, that supports

        11          a diagnoses of psychopathy.  Dr. Woodside scored

        12          Mr. Bonnetrouge at 26.3, which is not sufficient

        13          for that diagnosis.  Dr. Woodside testified that

        14          he nonetheless considered the results helpful and

        15          meaningful as an indication of the measure of

        16          Mr. Bonnetrouge's level of antisociality.

        17          Dr. Woodside views antisociality on a continuum.

        18          A person can be more or less antisocial.  And to

        19          him, as I understood his evidence, a high score

        20          on the PCL-R that falls short the psychopathy

        21          diagnosis still demonstrates a high level of

        22          antisociality, which in turn is relevant to the

        23          risk of recidivism and also to possible response

        24          and amenability to treatment.

        25               When he talked about treatment options in

        26          light of his diagnoses, Dr. Woodside outlined

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         1          helpful in reducing the risk that Mr. Bonnetrouge

         2          presents.  He said that antisociality is

         3          something that is difficult to treat and that in

         4          Mr. Bonnetrouge's case, there is an added

         5          challenge because he has some cognitive deficits.

         6          Dr. Woodside viewed the consumption of

         7          intoxicants as a significant factor contributing

         8          to Mr. Bonnetrouge's antisocial behaviour.  So he

         9          viewed total abstinence from intoxicants as a key

        10          component in reducing Mr. Bonnetrouge's

        11          antisocial behaviours.  I understood his evidence

        12          to be that as far as deviant sexual preference,

        13          those cannot be cured; however, in some cases

        14          they can be managed, and one of the ways that

        15          they can be managed is through intervention with

        16          medication, mainly sex drive reduction drugs.

        17               Dr. Woodside testified about his experience

        18          with this medication.  He has treated patients

        19          with this type of medication.  He was careful to

        20          explain that there is very little by way of

        21          empirical research on this subject and much

        22          remains unknown about the long-term effects that

        23          these types of medications can have on people.

        24          But he did report on his anecdotal experience

        25          using this type of medication, and he said that

        26          he had some success with the patients that he has

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         1          decrease in recidivism rates in those patients.

         2          He said that if, however, a person stops taking

         3          the medication, the sex drive returns rapidly.

         4          In the conclusion of his report, this is an

         5          aspect of the treatment that he recommends for

         6          Mr. Bonnetrouge in perpetuity in order to manage

         7          his risk effectively.

         8               He explained that the medication can have

         9          significant side effects; in some cases, it could

        10          be harmful to the patient's overall health.

        11          Because of this, before he prescribes this

        12          medication, Dr. Woodside has the patient undergo

        13          a series of tests, and, in cases where the

        14          medication is prescribed, he ensures that

        15          patients are monitored closely from a medical

        16          point of view.  For example, they would undergo

        17          regular blood testing, and they would be followed

        18          by an endocrinologist to make sure the medication

        19          is not compromising the patient's health in a

        20          serious way.

        21               Dr. Woodside also testified about what has

        22          been referred to as "burnout" as a factor

        23          reducing the risk of recidivism.  Burnout refers

        24          to the phenomenon whereby recidivism tends to

        25          decrease as a person gets older.  Dr. Woodside

        26          says there is a decline in recidivism as a person

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         1          person and the type of offence.  He said the rate

         2          of decline of recidivism for pedophiles on the

         3          whole is slower than it is for rapists.  He said

         4          that pedophiles have been observed to start to

         5          show decline in recidivism at around age 50.

         6               As I have already alluded to, Dr. Woodside's

         7          view is that if Mr. Bonnetrouge consumes alcohol,

         8          his risk is significantly enhanced.  Alcohol has

         9          the effect of removing inhibitions and many

        10          violent offences are committed by persons who are

        11          intoxicated.  Several of Mr. Bonnetrouge's sexual

        12          offences, including the predicate offences, were

        13          committed when he had been consuming alcohol.  So

        14          Dr. Woodside considers total abstinence from

        15          alcohol would be an essential component in

        16          managing Mr. Bonnetrouge's risk.

        17               Dr. Woodside talked about other factors as

        18          well, including the possible benefits of therapy.

        19          His view was that Mr. Bonnetrouge would have

        20          access to cognitive behavioural therapy while in

        21          custody, potentially intense programming, and

        22          that he could also continues this type of therapy

        23          in the community, albeit in a less intensive way.

        24          Dr. Woodside's opinion is that it has not been

        25          demonstrated that this type of therapy actually

        26          reduces recidivism rates.  He would recommend it

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         1          understood his opinion to be that he would not

         2          place great reliance on this type of measure as a

         3          risk management method, and certainly not on its

         4          own.  Dr. Woodside noted that Mr. Bonnetrouge has

         5          been exposed to therapy while in custody and has

         6          not done well in those programs, which he felt

         7          could be an indication of the chances, or lack

         8          thereof, of success of this type of measure for

         9          him in the future.  Dr. Woodside also noted that

        10          Mr. Bonnetrouge's cognitive deficits would

        11          present an additional obstacle for him because

        12          whatever treatment or therapy is delivered to him

        13          would have to be adapted to his circumstances.

        14               Dr. Woodside's overall assessment was that

        15          he thought it unlikely that Mr. Bonnetrouge's

        16          risk could be managed in the community in the

        17          context of a long-term supervision order coupled

        18          with a determinate sentence.  His view is that

        19          Mr. Bonnetrouge's risk will remain high

        20          throughout his lifetime and he will require

        21          mandated treatment throughout his lifetime.

        22               As for Dr. Nesca, he is a doctor in clinical

        23          psychology.  He has extensive experience working

        24          in correctional settings, in-patient psychiatry

        25          units, academic studies, and private practice.

        26          He does not disagree with Dr. Woodside's

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         1          mentioned, some of the things that came out in

         2          his interview with Mr. Bonnetrouge seem to

         3          support Dr. Woodside's diagnosis relating to

         4          sexual preferences, in particular with respect to

         5          the preference for non-consensual sexual

         6          activity.

         7               In Dr. Nesca's opinion, however,

         8          Mr. Bonnetrouge's sexual preferences are

         9          non-exclusive.  In other words, he is not solely

        10          attracted sexually to children and he is not

        11          solely attracted to the concept of sexual

        12          activity with a person who is not consenting.

        13          Dr. Nesca felt this was very important from a

        14          risk management point of view because sexual

        15          preference, in his view, is not something that

        16          can be treated per se.  So where the deviant

        17          preference is exclusive, there is, in a sense,

        18          nowhere to go with a patient other than simply

        19          trying to manage the sexual impulses.  On the

        20          other hand, if the preference is not exclusive,

        21          then there can be a treatment and therapy

        22          strategy that is focused on shifting towards the

        23          non-deviant sexual preference of the patient.

        24               Dr. Nesca testified about the burnout

        25          theory.  He said that, in his view, as

        26          Mr. Bonnetrouge gets older, the effect of burnout

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         1          He considered it significant that Mr. Bonnetrouge

         2          scored low on the core psychopathic traits on the

         3          PCL-R because those traits are not effected by

         4          burnout.  So not having those traits, in

         5          Dr. Nesca's opinion, as I understood it,

         6          increases the chance that the risk would, in

         7          fact, be reduced by the operation of burnout.

         8               Dr. Nesca scored Mr. Bonnetrouge on the

         9          PCL-R.  He did arrive at a slightly different

        10          score than Dr. Woodside's, but considering the

        11          margin of error on the instrument, they

        12          essentially arrived at equivalent scores.

        13               Where Dr. Nesca disagreed with Dr. Woodside,

        14          though, was about the use that could be made of

        15          the result of Mr. Bonnetrouge's score on that

        16          instrument.  In Dr. Nesca's opinion, the only use

        17          that can be made of the PCL-R instrument is to

        18          pose, or not, a diagnosis of psychopathy.  He

        19          disagreed with Dr. Woodside's use of the tool as

        20          a means of assessing a person's level of

        21          antisociality and extrapolate that onto the risk

        22          factor or the amenability for treatment.  If his

        23          view, the only relevance of Mr. Bonnetrouge's

        24          result on the PCL-R is to say that he is not a

        25          psychopath, which makes his prospect for

        26          treatment and management in the community better

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         1               Another reason advanced by Dr. Nesca for not

         2          putting any weight on the results of the PCL-R,

         3          is that he said Mr. Bonnetrouge's score is in

         4          line with the average score for aboriginal

         5          inmates; it does not distinguish him from other

         6          aboriginal inmates in any way.

         7               Dr. Nesca disagreed entirely with

         8          Dr. Woodside as far as the use of actuarial tools

         9          such as the Static-99, V-RAG, or SORAG in

        10          assessing the risk that an individual poses for

        11          recidivism.  His view is that these instruments

        12          provide results for group behaviour and are

        13          entirely useless to predict individual behaviour.

        14          He also gave evidence about the statistical

        15          calculations that were used in the development of

        16          these models and the models used within these

        17          instruments.  He expressed a strong view that

        18          these models are not useful at all when it comes

        19          to predicting risks of individuals behaving in a

        20          certain way.  I will not attempt to summarize

        21          what he said in this regard.  I think what

        22          matters is that his view, and it was clearly

        23          expressed at the hearing, is that these tools

        24          should simply not be used as risk assessment

        25          tools in this context.

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         1          to do with the relevance of Mr. Bonnetrouge's

         2          cognitive difficulties.  In Dr. Nesca's view,

         3          Mr. Bonnetrouge's lack of success in the past

         4          with cognitive therapy says very little about

         5          what success he might have in the future.  In his

         6          opinion, Mr. Bonnetrouge's lack of success in the

         7          programs that he has taken can probably be

         8          explained in large part by his cognitive

         9          difficulties.  As I understood him, he thinks the

        10          significance of Mr. Bonnetrouge's cognitive

        11          problems was underestimated and understated in

        12          Dr. Woodside's report.  Dr. Nesca thinks it is in

        13          error to look at past failures of these methods

        14          as an indication that Mr. Bonnetrouge could not

        15          have better outcomes in the future.  He also

        16          noted that programs not tailored to his needs

        17          (for example, a program that would be delivered

        18          in a classroom-type setting) would not have been

        19          suited to him, would have been difficult for him

        20          to benefit from, and would probably have been

        21          very frustrating for him.  This would affect not

        22          only Mr. Bonnetrouge's chances of success in

        23          those programs but also his ability to

        24          participate, and his behaviour during the

        25          program.  So it may well result in manifestations

        26          that could erroneously be interpreted as lack of

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         1          which are some of the things that are reported in

         2          the correctional records.

         3               Dr. Nesca talked about a therapy model that

         4          has been developed more recently, which is called

         5          the "Good Lives Model".  This model is intended

         6          to be tailored to the offender's specific needs

         7          and limitations and which may provide a better

         8          chance of success with Mr. Bonnetrouge.

         9               On the whole, Dr. Nesca's conclusion about

        10          the prospect of managing Mr. Bonnetrouge's risk

        11          is not as pessimistic as Dr. Woodside's.  He

        12          believes that there is a reasonable possibility

        13          that the combination of the burnout effect due to

        14          aging, substance abuse treatment, and biological

        15          interventions, as well as therapy, could result

        16          in his risk being controlled in the community.

        17               Each of these experts formed an opinion

        18          about the level of risk that Mr. Bonnetrouge now

        19          presents (on that, they were in agreement) and

        20          about how that risk might be managed and what was

        21          the likelihood of that being achieved.

        22               As I have said, it is for the Court to

        23          decide, in light of the evidence, whether it is

        24          satisfied that there is a reasonable expectation

        25          that a jail term, followed by a long-term

        26          supervision order, could adequately protect the

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         1               A number of cases have discussed what the

         2          term "reasonable expectation" should be taken to

         3          mean in this context.  One of those cases was a

         4          case from this jurisdiction, R. v. Kudlak, 2011

         5          NWTSC 29.  I want to quote briefly from it at

         6          paragraph 102.  The Court was talking about this

         7          subject and said, after having referred to other

         8          cases:

         9                 The other principle that emerges
                           from this discussion is, as	
        10                 articulated in much of the case
                           law that "there must be evidence
        11                 of treatability that is more than
                           an expression of hope and that
        12                 indicates that the specific
                           offender can be treated within a
        13                 definite period of time" ...

        14          And here there is a reference to a number of

        15          cases.  The Court continues:

        16                 Arguably this principle has been
                           reinforced by the use of the
        17                 expression "reasonable
                           expectation" in s. 753(4.1) as
        18                 opposed to the term "reasonable
                           possibility" used in s.
        19                 753.1(1)(c).  A "reasonable
                           expectation" may require a higher
        20                 level of certainty.  And in this
                           regard, as noted in Johnson and
        21                 G.L., the offender's amenability
                           to treatment and the prospects for
        22                 success are critical factors to
                           address.
        23

        24               I agree with these comments.  What is

        25          required here is more than the expression of

        26          hope.  What is required is that there be evidence

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         1          period of time, can be treated in such a way as

         2          to reduce his risk.  The implication is that by

         3          virtue of the combined effect of the determinate

         4          sentence and the period of long-term supervision,

         5          the risk will have been reduced to an acceptable

         6          level and that it will remain at that level even

         7          in the absence of exterior controls.

         8               The possibility that the risk might be

         9          controlled is also not sufficient.  In the case

        10          of R. v. Goforth, 2007 SKCA 144, which was

        11          decided under the provisions of Part XXIV of the

        12          Code before the 2008 amendments, the trial judge

        13          had approached the matter by saying that an

        14          indeterminate sentence should only be imposed if

        15          there was no possibility of management in the

        16          community.  The Court of Appeal underscored that

        17          this was not the correct test and said that the

        18          mere possibility that the risk could be managed

        19          in the community was not enough.  Goforth,

        20          paragraphs 53 and 54.

        21               As noted by the Court in Kudlak, in the

        22          excerpt that I quoted earlier, it is arguable

        23          that the language of the existing provision

        24          creates a standard that is even more strict than

        25          the one that applied under the previous regime.

        26          Given this, what the Court of Appeal said in

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         1          applicable, but even more so perhaps.

         2               Considering the whole of the opinions

         3          expressed by Dr. Woodside and Dr. Nesca, I find

         4          that the areas where they agreed on are more

         5          significant, for the purposes of my decision,

         6          than the areas where they do not.  First, they

         7          substantially agree on the diagnosis and on the

         8          level of risk that Mr. Bonnetrouge currently

         9          presents.  Second, they agree that as he ages,

        10          burnout is a factor that may reduce his risk, but

        11          neither of them suggested that this burnout

        12          factor ought to be relied on in and of itself to

        13          manage the risk.  Third, they both considered

        14          biological intervention to be one of the

        15          components required to manage his risk and to

        16          manage Mr. Bonnetrouge's substance abuse problem.

        17               Some of the areas of differences in their

        18          opinions do not matter much in the circumstances

        19          of this case.  For example, as far as their

        20          disagreement on whether actuarial instruments

        21          should be used to measure risk, their difference

        22          of opinion is inconsequential because, in the

        23          end, they both agree that Mr. Bonnetrouge

        24          presents a high risk to reoffend.  Their

        25          difference of opinion as to the use that should

        26          be made of the result on the PCL-R, I do not find

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         1          arrived at essentially the same score and they

         2          both agree that Mr. Bonnetrouge is not a

         3          psychopath.

         4               Dr. Nesca was critical of Dr. Woodside's use

         5          of the high scores on the instrument as

         6          suggesting a high level of antisociality, and he

         7          suggested that this tool should only be used to

         8          arrive or not arrive at the diagnose of

         9          psychopathy.  But in his own evidence, Dr. Nesca

        10          also used the instrument for a purpose that was

        11          other than simply this diagnosis or non-diagnosis

        12          of psychopathy.  He said that because

        13          Mr. Bonnetrouge did not score high on the core

        14          psychopathic traits on the PCL-R, burnout would,

        15          in fact, be a factor that would reduce his risk

        16          because, he said, burnout does not affect

        17          psychopathic traits.  So even Dr. Nesca, in a

        18          sense, used the results on the PCL-R beyond

        19          simply the determination of whether

        20          Mr. Bonnetrouge is a psychopath or not.  But all

        21          that said, Dr. Nesca's point is well taken that

        22          Mr. Bonnetrouge's score does not distinguish him

        23          from other aboriginal offenders who are

        24          incarcerated.  So while I did understand why

        25          Dr. Woodside explained that he considered it

        26          relevant as a measure of antisociality, I would

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         1          PCL-R as far as deciding, ultimately, what to do

         2          in this matter.  I also note that Dr. Nesca

         3          agrees with Dr. Woodside that Mr. Bonnetrouge

         4          suffers from antisocial personality disorder.

         5          Their disagreement on the use of the PCL-R is,

         6          given this, not as significant as it might

         7          otherwise be.

         8               Perhaps the most significant disagreement

         9          between the two experts is the effectiveness that

        10          therapy could have for Mr. Bonnetrouge and, in a

        11          somewhat related way, what to make of his past

        12          lack of success with the programming.

        13               I understand Dr. Nesca's point about how

        14          Mr. Bonnetrouge's cognitive deficiencies would no

        15          doubt have impacted on his ability to benefit

        16          from the treatment that he was offered.

        17          Dr. Nesca's views, to put it bluntly, is that

        18          there is a shared responsibility for

        19          Mr. Bonnetrouge not having had success with

        20          treatment.  Dr. Nesca attributes some of the

        21          responsibility for that to the correctional

        22          authorities for not having provided him with

        23          treatment and programs that he could actually

        24          benefit from.  This is in the same vein as an

        25          argument made by Mr. Bonnetrouge's counsel about

        26          the failure of the correctional authorities to

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         1          early on in his correctional history.

         2               Because the very first time Mr. Bonnetrouge

         3          was sentenced as a youth, the Court had

         4          recommended that he receive treatment, something

         5          that the correctional authorities at the time

         6          decided not to do because they felt he was too

         7          young, and something that was apparently never

         8          followed up on.

         9               Defence also argued that more could have

        10          been done to explore into more detail what were

        11          the factors that contributed to Mr. Bonnetrouge

        12          doing well in a certain time frame, when he

        13          resided with his cousin in Vancouver, and appears

        14          not to have been convicted for any offences.

        15          This is referred to in Dr. Woodside's report, and

        16          it is stated in there, among other things, that

        17          Mr. Bonnetrouge did not have contact information

        18          for his cousin.  Dr. Woodside acknowledged in his

        19          evidence that he did not follow up on this or

        20          make any inquiries to try to track this cousin

        21          down and try to find out more about what factors

        22          may have been at play during this period of time

        23          where Mr. Bonnetrouge had better outcomes in the

        24          community.  Defence argued that more steps should

        25          have been taken to follow up on this.  The

        26          Crown's position, as I understood it, was that

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         1          things either and that if it was deemed

         2          important, the defence could have brought out

         3          additional information about this.  But Defence

         4          emphasized these various points, urging the Court

         5          to conclude that the failure of past programming

         6          to reduce Mr. Bonnetrouge's risk is not based

         7          solely on the fact that he his not treatable or

         8          that therapy cannot work for him.  I think the

         9          evidence bears this out at least to some extent.

        10               Of course this court has to be very careful

        11          in assessing why things were or were not done

        12          years ago with respect to an offender.  What I do

        13          accept is Dr. Nesca's opinion that some of the

        14          programs that were used with Mr. Bonnetrouge were

        15          not the best suited for him given his cognitive

        16          deficits, and I also accept that some of the

        17          instances where lack of success and apparent lack

        18          of motivation were noted in the correctional

        19          records may have been due to how these programs

        20          were delivered and the fact that they did not

        21          work for him.  And it is also true that there are

        22          other instances where the correctional documents

        23          do show a more positive picture about his

        24          motivation and attitude.

        25               But without deciding the point, even if I

        26          went as far as making a finding that

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         1          shared responsibility, that the authorities did

         2          fail him when he first came into the correctional

         3          system at a young age, and even if I discounted

         4          the failure of past recent attempts as a way of

         5          predicting success of future treatment attempts,

         6          the question remains whether, bearing that caveat

         7          in mind, there is a basis to have the reasonable

         8          expectation referred to paragraph 753(4.1).

         9               As I have said before, the question that I

        10          must answer is not whether there is a possibility

        11          that other treatment methods might work or the

        12          possibility that Mr. Bonnetrouge's risk may be

        13          controlled in the community if, for example, he

        14          were released in an environment including

        15          positive models.  It may well be that a new

        16          therapeutic approach such as the Good Lives

        17          Model, or something else, will achieve better

        18          results for him than what has been done in the

        19          past.  And it is likely true, and I think

        20          everyone would agree, if released in the

        21          community, his success will depend in part on who

        22          he associates with and what supports he has.

        23               I accept the submission that these

        24          possibilities exist.  I accept that some things

        25          that have not been tried should be tried to

        26          assist him in the control of his risk.  But

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         1          There is nothing concrete in the evidence, in my

         2          view, to find that based on these factors alone,

         3          there is a reasonable expectation that within a

         4          determined period of time Mr. Bonnetrouge will no

         5          longer present a risk to the public.  Saying that

         6          some of the things that have been tried have not

         7          worked and it is not all his fault because they

         8          may have been ill-suited for his needs is one

         9          thing.  Saying that there is a basis to conclude

        10          that the things that have not been tried can be

        11          reasonably expected to succeed is quite another.

        12               There is no question, as I said, that

        13          Dr. Nesca, in the end, is more optimistic than

        14          Dr. Woodside about Mr. Bonnetrouge's prospects.

        15          But even taking Dr. Nesca's evidence at its

        16          highest and accepting that the therapy along the

        17          Good Lives Model line would have better chances

        18          of success because it is better suited for his

        19          needs, even Dr. Nesca did not say that therapy

        20          alone could control Mr. Bonnetrouge's risk, nor

        21          does he say that burnout alone can be expected to

        22          do so.  Both experts envisaged more, including

        23          biological intervention, getting the alcohol

        24          dependency disorder under control, and Mr.

        25          Bonnetrouge complying with treatment.  To me,

        26          this raises a number of concerns.

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         1          intervention, Mr. Bonnetrouge would have to be

         2          able to take this medication.  The possibility of

         3          treatment with a sex drive reduction medication

         4          is often a proposed method of treatment when

         5          dealing with repeat offenders who face a

         6          dangerous offenders designation and the potential

         7          for an indeterminate sentence.  This type of

         8          evidence has been presented and this type of

         9          treatment option has been referred to in several

        10          dangerous offenders' hearings that have taken

        11          place in this court in recent years.  In R. v.

        12          Kudlak, there was evidence about that.  It was

        13          also the case in R. v. Sassie, 2012 NWTSC 27, and

        14          R. v. Melanson, 2011 NWTSC 39.

        15               Here there are indications that

        16          Mr. Bonnetrouge has expressed he would be willing

        17          to take this type of treatment, but he has never

        18          taken it.  There are also a lot of unknowns about

        19          this.  Dr. Woodside said there was no immediate

        20          reason to think Mr. Bonnetrouge would not be a

        21          candidate for this type of treatment, but the

        22          evidence is also that before he would prescribe

        23          it, he would have to have certain tests done on

        24          Mr. Bonnetrouge and he would also want to monitor

        25          him regularly for potential adverse side affects.

        26          So there is a possibility that this treatment

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         1          lot of unknowns.

         2               The second question has to do with

         3          compliance.  Biological intervention would be

         4          part of a number of long-term strategies that

         5          would, once Mr. Bonnetrouge is back in the

         6          community, require him to comply with the

         7          treatment plan with the medications but also

         8          comply with other things like alcohol abstinence

         9          conditions and following whatever therapy session

        10          or programs would be deemed beneficial for him.

        11               It cannot be overlooked that

        12          Mr. Bonnetrouge's level of compliance with court

        13          orders while in the community has not been great.

        14          This is not surprising considering his substance

        15          abuse problem, his antisocial personality

        16          disorder, and his paraphilia.  A long-term

        17          supervision order would entail a higher level of

        18          supervision and potentially more immediate

        19          consequences in the event of a breach of

        20          something like a probation order.  Still, the

        21          status of being on parole and at risk of

        22          immediate and indeterminate custody is the most

        23          stringent regime of supervision that a person can

        24          be under in the community.  It is the one that

        25          presents the highest incentive for compliance.

        26               The breach of a long-term supervision order

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         1          Mr. Anderson explained, as the breach of a parole

         2          condition while on release for an indeterminate

         3          sentence.  When it is alleged that a person has

         4          breached a long-term supervision order, the

         5          person may go back into custody for a period of

         6          time but only up to a maximum of 90 days unless a

         7          charge is laid.  If a breach charge is laid, then

         8          it is dealt with by way of prosecution on that

         9          charge.  It is not at all the same as the

        10          immediate consequence of revocation of parole.

        11               The last aspect, and, really, this is the

        12          most significant, just as it was in Kudlak, is

        13          that some controls appear to be required in

        14          perpetuity.

        15               On the whole of the evidence, I am satisfied

        16          that Mr. Bonnetrouge will require supervision and

        17          controls for a very long time and, in some

        18          respects, for his whole life.  A determinate

        19          sentence followed by a long-term supervision

        20          order will only provide a finite period of time

        21          where those controls can be in place.

        22               Mr. Bonnetrouge is now in his mid thirties.

        23          He has been on remand for fours years.  If a

        24          determinate sentence in the range proposed by

        25          defence were to be imposed, he would receive, in

        26          effect, a further jail term of three to four

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         1          supervision if he got credit for his remand time

         2          on a one-to-one ratio.  If he got enhanced credit

         3          for his remand time as defence suggests he

         4          should, the further jail term would be in the

         5          range of one to three year.  So the time frame

         6          for which he would be under some form of control

         7          or other could be anywhere between 11 and 14

         8          years from today's date.  This would take him to

         9          the end of his 40s or just around the time he

        10          would turn 50.  At that point, he would be

        11          without any supervision or controls.  Any

        12          measures employed up until then to hopefully

        13          successfully control his risk would no longer be

        14          mandated by anything, whether it is the sex drive

        15          reduction medication, possibly medication to

        16          assist him in abstaining from alcohol, or any

        17          other measures required to maintain his sobriety,

        18          or therapeutic efforts.  All of this continuing

        19          would, at that point, be dependent solely on his

        20          choice to continue with it or not.

        21               There is of course the possibility at the

        22          expiration of his sentence, Mr. Bonnetrouge would

        23          continue to take sex drive reduction medication,

        24          would continue to abstain from alcohol, and would

        25          continue to address his issues through therapy

        26          and whatever supports would be required at that

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         1               I recognize that Mr. Bonnetrouge has been on

         2          medication before while on release.  There is

         3          reference to this in the reports from 2002 about

         4          his parole being temporarily suspended to allow a

         5          change in his medication regime.  Those

         6          medications, though, were antidepressants and

         7          mood stabilizers.  They are medications that can

         8          also have side effects.  But the type of

         9          medication we are talking about here is really

        10          quite different.

        11               The only evidence I have about people's

        12          inclination to continue taking them when they are

        13          no longer compelled to do so by a court order or

        14          by an order of the Parole Board is that according

        15          to Dr. Woodside, the people he has had -- at

        16          least treated with these drugs, stop seeing him

        17          when their sentence is over.  Whether

        18          Mr. Bonnetrouge would be an exception and

        19          continue with his medical regime is an unknown.

        20               It is not possible to predict the future.

        21          The knowns at this point are that Mr. Bonnetrouge's

        22          paraphilia are not curable.  They are, at best,

        23          treatable with the view of managing his risk.

        24          His antisocial personality disorder is a

        25          condition that is difficult to treat.  His

        26          alcohol addiction, again, is not something that

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         1          best, managed.  His cognitive difficulties are

         2          fixed, although from a therapeutic perspective,

         3          according to Dr. Nesca, they could be overcome in

         4          the sense that therapy suited to his specific

         5          needs could be more successful than what he has

         6          been exposed to so far.  But my assessment of the

         7          evidence as a whole leads me to this conclusion:

         8          If Mr. Bonnetrouge's risk is to be controlled in

         9          the community, it will be through a combination

        10          of various things which, I am satisfied, will

        11          have to be in place for a very long time.  I am

        12          not satisfied that there is a reasonable

        13          expectation that the combination of a determinate

        14          sentence and a long-term supervision order would

        15          adequately protect the public because I am not

        16          satisfied that Mr. Bonnetrouge's risk can be

        17          reduced in that timeframe to the point that he

        18          could then be completely free in the community

        19          and the public still protected.

        20               The Supreme of Canada, in R. v. Ipeelee, 2012

        21          SCC 113, stated that the special considerations

        22          that apply in sentencing aboriginal offenders

        23          apply to dangerous offender proceedings.  I have

        24          not overlooked the fact that Mr. Bonnetrouge is

        25          an aboriginal offender.  I have not overlooked

        26          the fact that he has faced very difficult

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         1          contributed to his antisociality and his

         2          addiction to alcohol.  Sadly, many children in

         3          this jurisdiction continue to grow up in

         4          circumstances that are difficult and are exposed

         5          to alcohol abuse and neglect.

         6               This court was dealing with another offender

         7          who had a very difficult background in Kudlak,

         8          and in addressing whether that offender's

         9          aboriginal status could justify a different

        10          outcome, the Court said the following at

        11          paragraph 107:

        12                 I have taken into consideration
                           Mr. Kudlak's difficult childhood.
        13                 He had a chaotic family life
                           marked by alcohol abuse and
        14                 violence.  Sadly many of our
                           northern aboriginal communities
        15                 are afflicted by similar problems.
                           I have no doubt that part of the
        16                 reason for the difficulties that
                           confronted the Kudlak family
        17                 thirty some years ago was the
                           dislocation of the family from a
        18                 more traditional, land-based way
                           of life to the settled community
        19                 of Cambridge Bay where they became
                           dependent on welfare.  I am also
        20                 sure that some of Mr. Kudlak's
                           early problems were due to a lack
        21                 of resources available in
                           Cambridge Bay for diagnosing and
        22                 effectively treating childhood
                           problems.  These types of
        23                 disruptive childhoods are all too
                           common as well in many of our
        24                 communities.

        25                 Mr. Kudlak's psychological
                           problems and the sexual deviance
        26                 cannot, however, be traced to his
                           aboriginal heritage.  These are
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         1                 most part, been aboriginal as
                           well, including members of his
         2                 family, and they have been
                           affected by his uncontrolled
         3                 behaviour.  The need for
                           protecting the public is just as
         4                 acute in a northern aboriginal
                           community as anywhere else.  In a
         5                 case such as this, where public
                           protection is paramount,
         6                 incarceration is the only
                           alternative, whether one is
         7                 considering an aboriginal or
                           non-aboriginal offender.
         8

         9               The same can be said here.  The sad reality

        10          is that Mr. Bonnetrouge has proven to be very

        11          dangerous for members of his community, who are

        12          in majority aboriginal.  He has caused great harm

        13          to young children and others who, by virtue of

        14          various circumstances, were in vulnerable

        15          positions.  He has done this consistently over

        16          the years and he did so again in 2009 when he

        17          committed the two offences that he must be

        18          sentenced for today.

        19               One can have empathy for the situations that

        20          he himself has faced when he was growing up and

        21          for the fact that throughout all these years, in

        22          and out of the correctional system, he has not

        23          had access to programing that was suited to his

        24          specific needs or to the type of treatment and

        25          programming he would have needed at a much

        26          younger age when he first came into contact with

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         1          said in R. v. Evans, 2008 Carswell Ont 994, at

         2          paragraph 127:  "Sympathy cannot ground the

         3          conclusion that there is a reasonable expectation

         4          of controlling his risk in the community."

         5               It must be remembered as well that an

         6          indeterminate sentence does not mean that

         7          Mr. Bonnetrouge can never be released back in the

         8          community.  It does not leave him without hope of

         9          eventually being released.  The various measures

        10          to control his risk that were discussed at length

        11          at this hearing remain relevant.  The type of

        12          therapeutic approaches referred in the evidence,

        13          tailored to his needs and taking into account his

        14          cognitive deficit, should be explored.  The use

        15          of sex drive reducing medication, when the time

        16          is appropriate, should be explored as well,

        17          especially if he is willing to take this type of

        18          medication.  Anything that could have been

        19          developed under the term of a determinate

        20          sentence followed by a long-term supervision

        21          order can be attempted just the same under the

        22          parameters of an indeterminate sentence with a

        23          view, if the risk can be controlled, that he

        24          could be released into the community on parole.

        25          It is not uncommon for people who have received a

        26          dangerous offender designation and been sentenced

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         1          actually be able to be released as on parole.

         2          The fundamental difference is that if that

         3          happens and if he is released on parole, he will

         4          be under a regime that will ensure that if he is

         5          unwilling or unable to follow through on the

         6          risk-reducing measures, the authorities will be

         7          in a position to act immediately.  And I have

         8          concluded, sadly, that in this case that is the

         9          only way to adequately protect the public against

        10          the risk that he represents.

        11               For those reasons, I declare Mr. Bonnetrouge

        12          to be a dangerous offender pursuant to Section

        13          753 of the Code, and, under the same provision, I

        14          sentence him to an indeterminate term of

        15          imprisonment.

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        18                        Certified Pursuant to Rule 723
                                  of the Rules of Court
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        21                        Jane Romanowich, CSR(A)
                                  Court Reporter
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