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              R. v. Lennie, 2012 NWTSC 15           S-1-CR-2010-000192

                IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES

                IN THE MATTER OF:







                                 HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN



                                         - v -



                                      MYLES LENNIE









              Transcript of the Reasons for Sentence delivered by The

              Honourable Justice L. Charbonneau, in Inuvik, in the

              Northwest Territories, on the 9th day of February, 2012.





              APPEARANCES:

              Ms. D. Vaillancourt:      Counsel on behalf of the Crown

              Mr. T. Bock:              Counsel on behalf of the Accused



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                                Charge under s. 268 C.C.






         1      THE COURT:             Myles Lennie was found guilty

         2          by a jury yesterday on a charge of aggravated

         3          assault against Billy McNeely.  Today, it is my

         4          responsibility to decide what his sentence should

         5          be for that very serious crime.

         6               The charge arises from unfortunate events

         7          that took place in Fort Good Hope almost two

         8          years ago, on April 30th, 2010.  That evening

         9          should have been a happy one, as Mr. Lennie and

        10          others were gathered to celebrate his brother's

        11          birthday, Laurent.  Mr. McNeely was one of

        12          several people who were at Laurent Lennie's house

        13          for that occasion.

        14               People were drinking beer and shots of vodka

        15          mixed with water, and were watching a hockey

        16          game.  But unfortunately, in relatively short

        17          order something developed between Mr. Lennie and

        18          Mr. McNeely, which resulted in a physical

        19          altercation and, ultimately, in Mr. Lennie

        20          stabbing Mr. McNeely both inside the residence

        21          and then again a short time later, outside the

        22          residence.

        23               There were many admissions that were made at

        24          the trial and those admissions narrowed down the

        25          issues considerably.  The only issue at trial was

        26          whether Mr. Lennie stabbed Mr. McNeely in

        27          self-defence.






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         1               The first issue that I must address in this

         2          decision is on what factual basis Mr. Lennie is

         3          to be sentenced.  In our criminal justice system,

         4          juries do not provide reasons for their

         5          decisions.  Their deliberations and reasons for

         6          arriving at their decision, are protected by

         7          strict confidentiality.  Where a verdict leaves

         8          ambiguity or uncertainty about what findings of

         9          facts were made to lead to that verdict, the

        10          trial judge must make the factual findings in

        11          those areas.  This is a case where I must do so

        12          because of the manner in which the evidence

        13          unfolded.

        14               The evidence was clear that there was a

        15          physical confrontation between the two men inside

        16          the residence, and that during that altercation

        17          Mr. Lennie stabbed Mr. McNeely in the arm.  The

        18          evidence was also clear that a short time after

        19          that, after Mr. Lennie had gone outside the house

        20          and Mr. McNeely went outside also to confront

        21          him, Mr. Lennie stabbed Mr. McNeely again.

        22               I explained to the jury that in order to

        23          find Mr. Lennie not guilty of aggravated assault,

        24          they needed to be satisfied that he was acting in

        25          self-defence both times he stabbed Mr. McNeely,

        26          that is, both inside the residence and outside

        27          the residence.  Because of that, the verdict






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         1          leaves open more than one possibility as to what

         2          facts the jury found.  The jury may have

         3          concluded that Mr. Lennie was acting in

         4          self-defence at one point but not at the other.

         5          This is what the Defence is asking me to

         6          conclude.  The Defence is asking me to conclude

         7          that Mr. Lennie was acting in self-defence inside

         8          the residence but not outside the residence.

         9               The other possibility is that the jury

        10          concluded that Mr. Lennie was not acting in

        11          self-defence at either point, and that is the

        12          position that is being advanced by the Crown.

        13               In addition to resolving that issue, I must

        14          make findings of fact because of how the evidence

        15          came out and because of the nature of the law of

        16          self-defence.  This is not one of those cases

        17          where the verdict provides a clear-cut black and

        18          white answer as to what evidence was accepted and

        19          what evidence was rejected.  The jury may have

        20          found self-defence was not available for any

        21          number of reasons.  For example, in considering

        22          the Defence set out in paragraph 1 of section 34

        23          of the Criminal Code, the jury could have decided

        24          that it was not available because Mr. Lennie was

        25          the one who provoked the assault.  Or they could

        26          have found it was not available because they

        27          decided he used more force than was necessary






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         1          under the circumstances.  There might have been

         2          other reasons or combination of reasons why they

         3          rejected the self-defence defence advanced in

         4          this case.

         5               Under the circumstances, I must make

         6          findings of facts in the context of the

         7          sentencing hearing, and that is why I invited

         8          submissions from counsel about this issue.

         9               The Crown's position is that I should

        10          conclude that Mr. Lennie was the aggressor

        11          throughout this continuous incident, that he

        12          initiated the physical confrontation inside the

        13          house, and later escalated that confrontation by

        14          introducing a knife into it; and that once

        15          matters were taken outside the residence, he

        16          continued to be the aggressor.

        17               The Defence position is that I should

        18          conclude that it was Mr. McNeely who was the

        19          aggressor when the physical confrontation

        20          happened inside the house, and that the stabbing

        21          of Mr. McNeely's arm was done in self-defence.  I

        22          also understand Defence to be suggesting that I

        23          should conclude that Mr. McNeely was also the

        24          aggressor outside the residence.  In essence,

        25          Defence asks me to interpret the jury's verdict

        26          as not having necessarily rejected Mr. Lennie's

        27          version of events completely, but as meaning that






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         1          the jury concluded that he may have simply gone

         2          too far as the events unfolded outside the

         3          residence.  The parties' proposed interpretations

         4          of the verdict are quite different, and it is my

         5          task to decide which one should prevail.

         6               Three witnesses were called at this trial:

         7          Mr. McNeely, Angela Love, and Mr. Lennie himself.

         8          There were some overlaps in the evidence of these

         9          witnesses, but also, in some respects,

        10          significant differences.  In my view, the most

        11          reliable evidence by far is the evidence of

        12          Angela Love, and I say this for a number of

        13          reasons.  She had only had half a beer before any

        14          of this happened.  She was new to Fort Good Hope

        15          and was at this gathering because she worked with

        16          Laurent Lennie's girlfriend.  That person, the

        17          girlfriend, now lives in Ontario, and there's no

        18          evidence of any continuing relationship or

        19          connection that could potentially taint

        20          Ms. Love's evidence or give her a bias either way

        21          in this case.  Ms. Love came across as a very

        22          neutral witness who did not seem to want to

        23          favour one side or the other, and this was in

        24          fact properly conceded by Defence Counsel in his

        25          closing address to the jury.

        26               She said this event was memorable for her,

        27          and that is understandable.  She observed the






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         1          events inside the house from a short distance,

         2          although admittedly she was not initially paying

         3          close attention to what was going on in the

         4          kitchen.  And as for the events that happened

         5          outside the residence, she was standing on a

         6          small veranda which sits five feet off the

         7          ground, and from a relatively short distance,

         8          when it was light out.  So she had a good

         9          opportunity to observe what was going on.  She

        10          was precise and careful in her evidence.  Where

        11          her evidence differs from anyone else's evidence,

        12          I accept Ms. Love's evidence.

        13               As far as what happened outside the

        14          residence, Ms. Love's evidence was much more

        15          consistent with Mr. McNeely's version than with

        16          Mr. Lennie's version.  It was, in fact, largely

        17          at odds with Mr. Lennie's accounts of events.

        18               There is less controversy as far as what

        19          happened inside the residence, in the sense that

        20          all the witnesses called agreed that Mr. McNeely

        21          and Mr. Lennie were arm wrestling, that at first

        22          things were friendly, that Mr. Lennie lost, and

        23          then things turned unfriendly.  Mr. Lennie

        24          testified that he was not upset about losing, and

        25          that it was Mr. McNeely who started getting

        26          abusive towards him.  Mr. McNeely denied calling

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         1          that got mad when he lost and became

         2          confrontational.  Ms. Love said she heard someone

         3          say something to Mr. Lennie that made him angry

         4          and caused him to get up and say "don't call me

         5          that, you fag."  This led to a scuffle, and she

         6          confirmed that at some point during the scuffle

         7          she saw that Mr. McNeely had Mr. Lennie in a

         8          choke hold.

         9               I had trouble with both Mr. McNeely's

        10          evidence and Mr. Lennie's evidence about how this

        11          scuffle started.  I think both of them minimized

        12          their role and contribution in escalating things.

        13          Mr. Lennie's description of backing away, trying

        14          to get away from Mr. McNeely, his claim that he

        15          was not angry, are all contradicted by Ms. Love's

        16          testimony.  Mr. McNeely's denial of having said

        17          anything to provoke Mr. Lennie is also

        18          contradicted by Ms. Love's evidence about

        19          something having been said, causing Mr. Lennie to

        20          get mad and get up.

        21               Based on my assessment of the credibility

        22          and reliability of these witnesses' evidence, and

        23          bearing in mind that on sentencing any fact that

        24          is potentially aggravating must be established by

        25          the Crown beyond a reasonable doubt, my findings

        26          of facts are as follows:

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         1          gathered at Laurent Lennie's residence to

         2          celebrate his birthday.  Mr. McNeely and the

         3          accused, Mr. Lennie, were part of this group.

         4          They had consumed some alcohol before arriving at

         5          Laurent Lennie's residence, but were not highly

         6          intoxicated.  After they arrived at Laurent

         7          Lennie's house, the group started watching the

         8          hockey game on television, and the drinking

         9          continued.

        10               2.  Within a relatively short time after

        11          people started watching the hockey game, Mr.

        12          McNeely and Mr. Lennie engaged in an arm

        13          wrestling match at the kitchen table in the

        14          house, and Mr. McNeely won.

        15               3.  Mr. Lennie was upset about losing the

        16          match.  I accept Mr. McNeely's evidence in that

        17          regard.  But I also find that Mr. McNeely did say

        18          something to taunt Mr. Lennie and that made Mr.

        19          Lennie more mad.  Ms. Love heard someone say

        20          something to Mr. Lennie and was not sure who said

        21          it, but I infer, and I find as a fact, that Mr.

        22          McNeely was the one who said something that

        23          provoked Mr. Lennie.

        24               4.  Mr. Lennie got up and said something

        25          back, or some things back to Mr. McNeely, and the

        26          two men began wrestling.  I find that they were

        27          both aggressive with one another at that point.






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         1          Mr. McNeely, who is bigger and stronger than Mr.

         2          Lennie, got the best of him and got him in a

         3          choke hold.  Others in the house tried to

         4          intervene.

         5               5.  While he was in the choke hold, Mr.

         6          Lennie stabbed Mr. McNeely on the arm with a

         7          knife.  I found his explanation about how he got

         8          his hands on this knife very improbable and

         9          difficult to accept.  However, there is not

        10          sufficient evidence about the knife to conclude

        11          beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Lennie had

        12          been carrying this knife on his person, so I make

        13          no finding either way as to how Mr. Lennie came

        14          to have a knife.

        15               6.  Mr. McNeely realized that he was

        16          bleeding, as did some of the other people who saw

        17          what was going on.  That put an end to the

        18          altercation.  Mr. McNeely went to the bathroom.

        19          I accept Ms. Love's evidence that Mr. Lennie at

        20          that point was still very upset and wanted to

        21          continue to fight.  Mr. Lennie was told to go

        22          outside the residence and was escorted out by his

        23          brother.

        24               7.  Mr. McNeely was very angry about having

        25          been stabbed.  Again, I accept Ms. Love's

        26          testimony to that effect.  Mr. McNeely himself

        27          admitted he was angry and wanted to go find Mr.






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         1          Lennie to confront him and beat him up for having

         2          pulled a knife on him.  Mr. McNeely went outside

         3          to confront Mr. Lennie.

         4               8.  Mr. McNeely approached Mr. Lennie and

         5          saw he was still holding the knife.  I find as a

         6          fact that at that point he did not engage in any

         7          further fighting with Mr. Lennie.  That makes

         8          sense.  Bigger and stronger as Mr. McNeely might

         9          be, it makes sense that he would not choose to go

        10          after someone who was holding a weapon.  I accept

        11          that he ran away, that he was chased by Mr.

        12          Lennie, and that he was stabbed in the back and

        13          on the neck as he was trying to get away.  I

        14          accept Mr. McNeely's evidence because it is

        15          clearly supported by Ms. Love's evidence, that

        16          there was no further altercation outside the

        17          residence, near the vehicles.  I reject Mr.

        18          Lennie's account of what happened outside the

        19          residence.

        20               Based on those findings of facts, I conclude

        21          that Mr. Lennie was clearly not acting in

        22          self-defence when he stabbed Mr. McNeely outside

        23          the residence.

        24               As for what happened inside the residence,

        25          again based on my findings of facts, it happened

        26          after Mr. Lennie engaged in a consensual fight

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         1          trying to avoid the fight and back away from it.

         2          He was mad, and this scuffle was a consensual

         3          fight that he was at the losing end of.

         4               Because of my findings about how the

         5          physical altercation started, I conclude that Mr.

         6          Lennie cannot rely on self-defence as it is

         7          defined in section 34(1) of the Code.  I do so in

         8          part because of the Supreme Court of Canada

         9          decision in R. v. Paice, [2005] 1 S.C.R. 339,

        10          which stands for the proposition that if a person

        11          engages in a consensual fight, they cannot later

        12          rely on self-defence as set out in that

        13          provision.  The second possibility for

        14          self-defence applying to what happened inside the

        15          residence that was explained to the jury, was

        16          self-defence as it is described in paragraph 2 of

        17          section 34 of the Criminal Code.

        18               On my view of the evidence, even considering

        19          that Mr. Lennie was being choked, the evidence

        20          does establish beyond a reasonable doubt that he

        21          could not meet either the second or the third

        22          requirements for that defence to apply, as I

        23          explained them to the jury.  I do accept that Mr.

        24          McNeely was holding him with considerable force,

        25          and that Mr. McNeely may have minimized just how

        26          much pressure he was applying as he was holding

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         1          Mr. Lennie's description of what was going on was

         2          exaggerated.  There were several other people

         3          around who were intervening moments before the

         4          stabbing, including Mr. Lennie's own older

         5          brother.  So under all the circumstances, I find

         6          that Mr. Lennie's reaction to the situation and

         7          the introduction of a potentially lethal weapon

         8          in this situation went far beyond what the law of

         9          self-defence permits.

        10               It is on that factual basis that I must now

        11          decide what a fit sentence is for this offence.

        12               The offence of aggravated assault is

        13          punishable by a maximum of 14 years in jail, and

        14          that shows how serious Parliament considers this

        15          offence to be.

        16               In any sentencing decision, the court has to

        17          take into account the sentencing principles that

        18          are set out in the Criminal Code, and I have done

        19          so.  I agree with the Crown that when it comes to

        20          crimes of violence, especially those involving

        21          the use of a potentially lethal weapon,

        22          deterrence and denunciation are important

        23          sentencing principles.  But I also agree with Mr.

        24          Lennie's counsel, that considering Mr. Lennie's

        25          young age and the fact that he does not have a

        26          significant criminal record, his rehabilitation

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         1          counsel said:  he has his whole life ahead of

         2          him, and the court cannot, and should not, lose

         3          sight of that.

         4               I also cannot overlook the fact that he is

         5          an aboriginal offender.  This requires me to

         6          consider any systemic or background factors that

         7          he has faced, as an aboriginal person, that have

         8          contributed to his coming into conflict with the

         9          law.  I have to consider what alternative

        10          sentencing approaches might be better suited to

        11          him because of his aboriginal heritage.

        12               Mr. Lennie's counsel's sentencing

        13          submissions this morning were very thorough and

        14          extremely helpful in understanding Mr. Lennie's

        15          background.  He grew up in Fort Good Hope, a

        16          small aboriginal community in the Sahtu region of

        17          the Northwest Territories.  He has a number of

        18          siblings and is the youngest of the family.  I

        19          heard that he grew up in a difficult environment

        20          in that his parents, both residential school

        21          survivors, fought a lot and drank a lot as he was

        22          growing up.  There was violence in the home.  The

        23          physical surroundings of the home were also

        24          challenging:  The home was run down, the

        25          conditions were described as rough, and the

        26          family did not have a lot of financial means.

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         1          was 14 years old.  It appears that, as is the

         2          case with many young people, he did so, to an

         3          extent, to get some escape from some of the

         4          situations he was facing at home and at school,

         5          and get relief from some of the stresses that he

         6          was under.  But, of course, as is often the case

         7          when alcohol is used in this way, it does not

         8          solve anything.  Usually, on the contrary, it

         9          makes matters worse.

        10               I do accept, without hesitation, that Mr.

        11          Lennie has faced systemic factors unfortunately

        12          common to many aboriginal people in this

        13          jurisdiction as he was growing up, and that those

        14          things did contribute to his use of alcohol and

        15          eventually contributed to his coming into

        16          conflict with the law.  The Criminal Code

        17          mandates that I approach his sentencing with

        18          those systemic factors in mind, and with some

        19          consideration, as I have already mentioned, of

        20          what sentencing approach is best suited for him

        21          given his situation and his aboriginal heritage.

        22          But the law is also clear that when it comes to

        23          serious crimes of violence, there are limits to

        24          how taking those factors into account can impact

        25          the ultimate sentencing decision.  The importance

        26          of having communities that are free from violence

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         1          does in non-aboriginal communities.  The need to

         2          discourage people from escalating fights by

         3          introducing weapons into them is as important in

         4          aboriginal communities as it is in non-aboriginal

         5          communities.

         6               Mr. Lennie's counsel realistically conceded

         7          that a significant jail term has to be imposed

         8          for this offence.  He is not asking me to

         9          consider an alternative to incarceration at this

        10          sentencing, and rightfully so, given the

        11          circumstances of this offence.

        12               In his counsel's submissions, I also heard a

        13          lot of positive things about Mr. Lennie this

        14          morning.  I heard that he has a lot of skills and

        15          qualities that he can build on if he wants to

        16          steer his life in a different direction.  It

        17          seems clear from many different sources, that he

        18          enjoys sports and is good at it.  He has won

        19          awards and recognitions for this.  It also

        20          appears from different sources that he has

        21          artistic abilities and some personal qualities as

        22          well.  He is respectful of elders, he likes to

        23          help them out and does things to help them out.

        24          He enjoys spending time with younger people and

        25          enjoys teaching them things.  All this suggests

        26          that Mr. Lennie has a lot to offer and contribute

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         1               His community, like all other communities in

         2          the north, need young people who have skills and

         3          talents, to stay healthy and make those kinds of

         4          positive contributions.  These young people are

         5          the future of these communities, and Mr. Lennie

         6          is very much a part of that future.  He has to

         7          make a choice whether he will be a good part of

         8          that future or a negative element in that future.

         9          Based on what his counsel has said, Mr. Lennie

        10          has accessed some of the programs available to

        11          him while he was on remand.  Over the past few

        12          years, he appears to have gained some insight

        13          into his behaviour and he has developed some

        14          plans for his future.  If those things continue,

        15          they all bode well for the future as long, of

        16          course, as he is able and willing to stick with

        17          those plans.

        18               Of course this sentencing is not only about

        19          Mr. Lennie.  His personal circumstances are

        20          important and they cannot be overlooked.  But, in

        21          balancing everything that I have to balance, the

        22          seriousness of the offence he has committed

        23          cannot be overlooked either, and I need to spend

        24          some time explaining why.

        25               Crimes of violence harm the victims, they

        26          harm families of all the people involved, they

        27          harm the community as a whole.  Often in smaller






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         1          communities the harm is even greater because of

         2          all the connections that exists between people.

         3          Violence is never a good thing, and it would be

         4          nice if people did not engage in physical fights

         5          and physical confrontations to settle disputes.

         6          But there is no doubt that introducing a weapon

         7          like a knife in a fight escalates matters

         8          significantly and puts it on another level.  It

         9          increases the level of blameworthiness of the

        10          person who does it, and the seriousness of doing

        11          something like that cannot be overstated.

        12               Unfortunately, incidents like the one that

        13          happened in this case, happen all too often in

        14          our communities.  Unfortunately, there are many

        15          stupid, senseless fights, over stupid, senseless

        16          things, where someone at some point decides to

        17          introduce a knife in the mix.  This happens all

        18          too frequently.  It is reflected in the cases

        19          that were filed by the Crown, which are only a

        20          small sample of these types of cases.  It is

        21          interesting to note that in some of those cases

        22          there is reference made to the prevalence of this

        23          type of offence in this jurisdiction.  Our Court

        24          of Appeal, for example, made reference to it at

        25          paragraph 7 of the Morgan decision.  Sadly, these

        26          incidents often happen basically over nothing of

        27          any real significance.  In this case, the fight






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         1          started over a lost arm wrestling match and some

         2          name calling.  In R. v. Morgan, 2007 NWTSC 30,

         3          aff'd [2008] NWTCA 12, the evidence was that what

         4          led to the fight where the stabbing occurred was

         5          an argument over which city, of Edmonton or

         6          Yellowknife, was the better one.  In R. v.

         7          Gonzales, [1999] N.W.T.J. No. 69, an obscene

         8          gesture made in passing, led to a fight between

         9          young people and ultimately to the victim having

        10          a knife imbedded completely in his back.  And in

        11          R. v. Itsi, 2004 NWTSC 10, aff'd [2005] N.W.T.J.

        12          No. 114 (NWTCA), and R. v. Green, 2007 NWTSC 22,

        13          the exact reason that caused the fight was never

        14          really clear on the evidence.  In those cases, as

        15          in this one, the victims were very lucky.  They

        16          were injured, some of them seriously, and

        17          suffered some consequences, but they fully

        18          recovered.

        19               There are other cases where persons who

        20          introduced knives into their fights and their

        21          victims were not so lucky.  What needs to be

        22          remembered is that sometimes the story ends with

        23          someone being dead.  This court has had the

        24          unfortunate task of imposing long jail terms to

        25          people who, in very similar types of

        26          circumstances, ended up killing their friend or

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         1          illustrate this point, but I will just name a

         2          few.  These are all cases from the last seven or

         3          eight years.

         4               In R. v. Emile, [2008] N.W.T.J. No. 51, the

         5          accused got into a fight with his brother for an

         6          unknown reason, grabbed a knife, and stabbed him.

         7          His brother died.  This court sentenced Mr. Emile

         8          to a lengthy jail term, but obviously nothing the

         9          court could do in that case could be worse than

        10          what Mr. Emile has to live with for the rest of

        11          his life.

        12               In R. v. Andre-Blake, [2010] N.W.T.J. No.

        13          78, the offender stabbed his cousin during a

        14          fight, and the cousin died.

        15               In R. v. Sangris, [2003] N.W.T.J. No. 68,

        16          again, following an argument between drunken

        17          friends, the offender stabbed and killed his

        18          friend.

        19               And in Fort Good Hope itself, not so many

        20          years ago, in R. v. D.N.K., [2004] N.W.T.J. No.

        21          86, a young man stabbed his friend during the

        22          course of a fight and the victim died.

        23               All of these incidents started off in ways

        24          very similar to this one - alcohol, flared up

        25          emotions, uncontrolled anger, physical

        26          confrontation, and the introduction of a knife -

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         1               And if I take some time to talk about this

         2          today, it is because the simple reality is that

         3          very easily, Mr. McNeely could have been killed

         4          on April 30th, 2010, over arm wrestling and name

         5          calling.  Over arm wrestling and name calling,

         6          Mr. McNeely could be dead, and Mr. Lennie could

         7          be facing a sentence of life imprisonment.  It is

         8          only a matter of pure luck that we are not in

         9          that position today.  Mr. Lennie needs to know

        10          this, and he needs to think long and hard about

        11          the fact that he could have easily been in that

        12          position.  Anyone who walks around with a knife

        13          just in case, or anyone who is inclined to grab

        14          onto a knife or another weapon during an argument

        15          or a fight, needs to think very long and hard

        16          about that.

        17               It is because of the serious inherent risk

        18          involved with the use of weapons that the courts

        19          impose significant sentences to people who

        20          introduce weapons and to fights, even when no one

        21          dies.  Of course Mr. Lennie must be sentenced for

        22          what he did and for what actually happened, not

        23          for what could have happened, and I am mindful of

        24          that.  He is being sentenced for aggravated

        25          assault.  He is not being sentenced for

        26          manslaughter.  The comments I am making about all

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         1          how easily things could have been much worse for

         2          everyone involved, and to highlight how much the

         3          level of danger in a situation is elevated by the

         4          introduction of a knife.

         5               The authorities filed by the Crown

         6          demonstrate that the range of sentences imposed

         7          for this type of offence is quite broad.  The

         8          aggravating factors that are specific to this

         9          case as I see it are:  First of all, that a

        10          weapon was introduced.  This is aggravating for

        11          the reasons I have just spent quite a bit of time

        12          talking about.  The second aggravating element,

        13          in my view, is that Mr. Lennie stabbed Mr.

        14          McNeely more than once.  I do accept that Mr.

        15          McNeely contributed to the continuation of this

        16          incident by deciding to go outside and confront

        17          Mr. Lennie.  But on the facts as I have found

        18          them, he then tried to get away from the

        19          situation and he was chased.  Mr. Lennie did show

        20          some persistence in his attack.

        21               The criminal record has been filed.  Beyond

        22          showing that Mr. Lennie is not a first offender

        23          and confirming in a way that he has had his

        24          struggles with alcohol, I do not consider that

        25          the criminal record is a significant factor for

        26          the purposes of sentencing him today.

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         1          offence really.  On the facts as I found them,

         2          there was an element of provocation by Mr.

         3          McNeely at the very start of all of this, but it

         4          does not have a significant mitigating impact, in

         5          my view, especially not in relation to what

         6          happened outside the residence.

         7               Mr. Lennie is clearly entitled to some

         8          credit for the time he has spent on remand.  I am

         9          told that after he was charged with this offence

        10          he was released on an undertaking, but was taken

        11          back into custody on other matters in November

        12          2010 and remained in custody until February 9th,

        13          2011.  On that date he was released with the

        14          consent of the Crown.  He was taken into custody

        15          again, however, in November 2011 and has been in

        16          custody since then.  But in the intervening

        17          period, in October 2011, he was sentenced on a

        18          breach charge and some of the time that he had

        19          spent on remand was considered used as a sentence

        20          for that charge.  All in all, counsel advise that

        21          there is a total of six months of remand time

        22          that he could receive credit for at this

        23          sentencing.  The Crown is asking that this remand

        24          time be credited on a ratio of one-for-one, and

        25          under the circumstances I think that is

        26          appropriate.

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         1          term of some significance must be imposed, and

         2          the ranges that are being suggested to me are not

         3          really that far apart.  The Crown is saying that

         4          the sentence should be in the range of

         5          two-and-a-half years, and the Defence is saying

         6          that this sentence should be in the range of 20

         7          months to two years.  From those ranges, Crown

         8          and Defence agree that I should deduct the credit

         9          I will give Mr. Lennie for the time he has spent

        10          on remand.

        11               Given the findings of fact I have made and

        12          because of there being really no mitigating

        13          factors of any significance, I consider that the

        14          range suggested by the Crown is very reasonable.

        15          On the facts of this case, given the fact there

        16          were numerous stabbings and that the injuries

        17          were serious, and that the last stabbing occurred

        18          as the victim was running away, as well as the

        19          location of these injuries, I think Mr. Lennie

        20          could be facing an even longer jail term than

        21          what the Crown is seeking today.  But keeping in

        22          mind his young age, the efforts that he has made

        23          so far to access programs, the insights that he

        24          appears to be starting to get about his

        25          behaviour, I am inclined to think that it would

        26          probably be very beneficial for him and his

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         1          protection of the public, to allow him to be

         2          under some ongoing supervision once he finishes

         3          serving his jail term.  I think there is good

         4          reason to show some restraint and ensure that

         5          probation can be a part of his sentence to assist

         6          him in his efforts to rehabilitate.

         7               This trial was about an event where Mr.

         8          Lennie made some very bad choices, choices that

         9          could have destroyed Mr. McNeely's life and Mr.

        10          Lennie's own life.  But as I have already

        11          mentioned, I know there is a lot more to Mr.

        12          Lennie than what he did that night.  He has

        13          skills and talents.  It strikes me that a person

        14          who wins an award for most sportsmanlike conduct

        15          in a sport, as I heard he did this morning, is

        16          obviously able to behave appropriately and keep

        17          his emotions in check.  A person who helps and

        18          respects elders, and who likes to spend time with

        19          children and teach them things, obviously has a

        20          lot to offer.  Mr. Lennie has to be held

        21          accountable for what he did on April 30th, 2010,

        22          but it is the Court's hope that this whole

        23          process will contribute to promoting his sense of

        24          responsibility for his behaviour, that he will

        25          use these events to move in another direction.  I

        26          have heard that he has plans to upgrade his

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         1          for himself and his community, and he appears to

         2          have some support in his community to do so.

         3          Hopefully, this will truly be the start of

         4          another chapter for him, a more healthy and

         5          productive one than the events that this trial

         6          was about.

         7               This morning in court when he had an

         8          opportunity to speak, he expressed an apology to

         9          Mr. McNeely, and he has said that he accepts the

        10          jury's verdict and he accepts whatever sentence

        11          is to be imposed on him as a result of what

        12          happened.  If those comments are sincere, then

        13          they are an important step in taking

        14          responsibility.  It is my hope that Mr. Lennie

        15          will continue on this path and will continue to

        16          take responsibility for his actions, and that he

        17          will put his energies into the many good things

        18          and useful things that he can do if he uses his

        19          skills and his talents and the supports that he

        20          has in his community.  Because he is just really

        21          at the start of his life and he has a lot of time

        22          ahead of him, if he chooses to, to make a

        23          positive contribution to his community.

        24               The Crown has sought a number of orders and

        25          I will deal with those first.

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         1          assault being a primary designated offence, that

         2          order is mandatory.

         3               It is also mandatory that I make a firearms

         4          prohibition order pursuant to section 109 of the

         5          Criminal Code.

         6               Defence Counsel has asked that I make today

         7          an order authorizing the lifting of this

         8          prohibition to enable Mr. Lennie to carry out

         9          hunting and trapping activities on the land

        10          because this is something that he has done in the

        11          past.  There is no question it is a productive

        12          activity, one that is well in line with his

        13          rehabilitation when he is released.  I have given

        14          this some thought, considering the factors I have

        15          to examine when deciding whether or not to grant

        16          this type of exemption pursuant to section 113 of

        17          the Code.  I am to consider the criminal record

        18          of the person, the nature and circumstances of

        19          the offence, and the safety of Mr. Lennie himself

        20          and the safety of others.  I have given this a

        21          lot of thought, as I have said, and I am not at

        22          this point prepared to grant the request for a

        23          section 113 authorization at this time.  This was

        24          a serious crime of violence, where Mr. Lennie

        25          took the step to arm himself with a weapon, not a

        26          firearm, but a dangerous weapon nonetheless.

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         1          control by Mr. Lennie of his emotions and his

         2          anger.  Hopefully, with some assistance he will

         3          learn to deal with these issues, whatever the

         4          issues may be with alcohol, as well as his issues

         5          dealing with anger, which he has attempted to

         6          deal with in the past I am told.  But at this

         7          stage, I am not satisfied that it is advisable to

         8          include an exemption authorization as part of my

         9          order.  But that does not end matters, because

        10          section 113 of the Code contemplates this type of

        11          authorization being made at the time the firearm

        12          prohibition order is issued, but it also allows

        13          for the application to be made to the competent

        14          authority at some later time.  I am sure counsel

        15          can assist Mr. Lennie in understanding the

        16          difference, and possibly down the road, in due

        17          course, assist him in presenting that type of

        18          application when the time comes.  The fact that I

        19          am not prepared to grant this exemption today on

        20          the basis of what is before me today, does not

        21          mean that the application could not successfully

        22          be made at some later time.

        23               Given the fact that I will impose a jail

        24          term of some significance to Mr. Lennie, I am not

        25          going to make an order for the payment of a

        26          victim of crime surcharge, and I am satisfied it

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         1               As I have already said, I have considered

         2          the range of two-and-a-half years proposed by the

         3          Crown to be reasonable, but I see no benefit in

         4          imposing a sentence today that would prevent Mr.

         5          Lennie from having the benefit of the support

         6          that he could get by being on probation after his

         7          release.

         8               Stand up, please, Mr. Lennie.

         9               Mr. Lennie, you have heard what I said.  It

        10          is my sincere hope that you will turn your life

        11          around.  The offence you committed was very

        12          serious and I do have to impose what I know is a

        13          long jail term, but you will get out and you will

        14          then have choices to make about what you do.  My

        15          sentence today is that you be imprisoned for two

        16          years less one day, which means you will not go

        17          to a penitentiary.  That is the jail term that I

        18          am imposing on you today.

        19               You can sit down because I want to tell you

        20          about the probation order.

        21               When you are released, you will be on

        22          probation for a period of 18 months, one year and

        23          a half.  The conditions of that order will be

        24          that you keep the peace and be of good behaviour.

        25          You know what that means.

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         1          report to the court as required, which probably

         2          will not be required very much, but if you are

         3          directed to appear in court you have to appear.

         4               I am going to put a condition that you take

         5          any alcohol counselling, anger management

         6          counselling, or any kind of counselling that your

         7          probation officer recommends.  You have already

         8          accessed some counselling in the past.  You have

         9          accessed counselling on your own without being

        10          told to.  I am sure that the probation officer

        11          will try to find things that will be helpful to

        12          you.  I encourage you to follow those

        13          recommendations and take whatever counselling is

        14          suggested.  This is after you are released.  You

        15          can also access programs while you are in jail.

        16               The next condition is that for that whole 18

        17          months you are to abstain completely from the

        18          possession and consumption of alcohol.  I want

        19          you to understand, Mr. Lennie, this is not a

        20          condition that I usually put in a probation

        21          order, because I know that for some people,

        22          stopping to drink is very difficult.  I do not

        23          like to set people up for failure and for

        24          breaches.  But in this case your lawyer has said

        25          this is what you want, you want to not drink.  If

        26          a court order helps you not to drink, then I am

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         1          sentence.  So that is why I am putting that

         2          condition in there.  The downside is if you do

         3          drink, that is a separate offence and you will be

         4          dragged back into court to deal with it.  It is

         5          an onerous thing, it is a year and a half where

         6          you cannot drink at all, but it sounds like that

         7          is better for you.

         8      THE ACCUSED:           Yeah.

         9      THE COURT:             So at the end of that year and

        10          a half when you are not on probation, it will be

        11          your choice to stay away from alcohol or not.

        12          But while you are on probation it is not your

        13          choice.  Do you understand that?  Yes?

        14      THE ACCUSED:           Yes.

        15      THE COURT:             You are prepared to follow

        16          that condition?

        17      THE ACCUSED:           Yes.

        18      THE COURT:             All right.  Then I will

        19          include that condition in the probation order.

        20               The last condition will be that you have no

        21          contact with Billy McNeely, and this is just

        22          obviously to avoid problems.

        23               I am not going to impose a curfew though.

        24          Your lawyer suggested maybe that could be part of

        25          restricting your freedom, but I am imposing a

        26          jail term that is pretty long.  The reason I am

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         1          could become difficult to manage, depending on

         2          what work you do, especially in the summer months

         3          when there is a lot of light, depending on where

         4          you are working and how many days a week you are

         5          working.  Saying you have to be in your residence

         6          by a certain time may be difficult to manage.  So

         7          this part is up to you to choose what you do with

         8          your evenings, where you go, who you hang out

         9          with, and it will be up to you to make good

        10          choices and not be in situations where you could

        11          be in trouble.  That part I am leaving up to you.

        12               Do you understand all of those conditions?

        13      THE ACCUSED:           Yes.

        14      THE COURT:             All right.  When we are

        15          finished, it will take a few moments but the

        16          clerk will prepare the probation order and he

        17          will go over these conditions with you again, and

        18          you will be getting a copy of that as well.

        19               Counsel, is there anything that I

        20          overlooked?

        21      MR. BOCK:              Your Honour, I just want to

        22          make clear on the record that two years less a

        23          day already has included the remand time?

        24      THE COURT:             Yes.  The law requires me to

        25          say what the sentence would have been but for the

        26          credit given for the remand time.  The Crown

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         1          guess what I am saying is that the sentence that

         2          I would normally impose is two-and-a-half years

         3          and I am giving him six months and a day credit

         4          for the remand time.

         5      MR. BOCK:              That's what I understood.

         6      THE COURT:             Yes.  Is there anything else

         7          that is not clear that I have overlooked?

         8      MR. BOCK:              No, Your Honour.  Thank you.

         9      THE COURT:             Anything from the Crown?

        10      MS. VAILLANCOURT:      Your Honour, I don't know if

        11          you mentioned the length of the firearms

        12          prohibition.

        13      THE COURT:             I'm sorry, I probably did not.

        14          It will be, I think the minimum is ten years from

        15          the day of release.  And as I assume there are no

        16          firearms in Mr. Lennie's possession right now,

        17          the condition for surrender will be forthwith.

        18          The order starts today and expires ten years from

        19          his release.

        20               Thank you for pointing that out.

        21               There will also be an order that any

        22          exhibits seized in this matter will be, at the

        23          expiration of the appeal period, destroyed or, if

        24          appropriate, returned to their lawful owner.

        25          There may not be any, but it is better to make

        26          the order now than try to get it made after the

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         1          investigation that should go back to someone,

         2          that can be done at the expiration of the appeal

         3          period.  Otherwise, those exhibits can be

         4          destroyed.

         5      MS. VAILLANCOURT:      Thank you, Your Honour.

         6      THE COURT:             This concludes these sittings

         7          of the court.  Before we close court, I just want

         8          to express my thanks to the members of the court

         9          staff for their assistance throughout this week;

        10          and counsel, I want to thank you both and commend

        11          you both for your very professional conduct of

        12          this case, and for the efforts you obviously put

        13          in working out non-contentious issues and

        14          focussing the issues in this trial.  I commend

        15          you both for that.

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        18                             Certified to be a true and
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                                       Supreme Court Rules of Court.
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