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                R. v. Alookee, 2011 NWTSC 11          S-1-CR-2009-000074



                IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES



                IN THE MATTER OF:







                              HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN



                                      - and -



                                 CLIFFORD ALOOKEE



                _____________________________________________________

                Transcript of Decision on Bail Estreatment Hearing

                delivered by the Honourable Justice L.A. Charbonneau,

                sitting at Yellowknife, in the Northwest Territories,

                on March 2nd, A.D. 2011.

                _____________________________________________________







                APPEARANCES:

                Mr. M. St-Germain:          Counsel for the Crown

                Mr. J. Bran:                Counsel for the Accused







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         1      THE COURT:             This is an application for

         2          forfeiture of bail monies that were deposited

         3          with the Court following an order made by a

         4          Justice of the Peace.  In that order, the Justice

         5          of the Peace had ordered that Clifford Alookee be

         6          released on a recognizance with a number of

         7          conditions, including one that he deposit $2,500

         8          in cash deposit before he could be released.

         9               There are many unique features to this case.

        10          It makes the decision to be made on this hearing

        11          a difficult one.  To put this hearing and my

        12          decision in context, I will refer to some extent

        13          to the history of these proceedings.

        14               First, the history of the prosecution that

        15          this recognizance was associated with.  Mr.

        16          Alookee was charged in March of 2009 with a

        17          sexual assault that allegedly had occurred in

        18          Yellowknife.  He was arrested and he was ordered

        19          released on the recognizance that I have already

        20          referred to.  That order was made in March, 2009,

        21          and the cash deposit was made in May.  So that

        22          was when Mr. Alookee was actually released.

        23               There were no sureties on the recognizance.

        24          It simply required that monies be deposited.

        25          There is a receipt on the court file that shows

        26          that those monies were sent to the Court by

        27          Anaoyok Alookee, who is Mr. Alookee's mother.





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         1               Mr. Alookee's Preliminary Hearing took place

         2          on August 7th in Yellowknife, and he was present

         3          as required.  He was committed to stand trial and

         4          his jury trial was scheduled to commence on May

         5          31st, 2010.  On that date, Mr. Alookee did not

         6          appear.  His counsel advised that Mr. Alookee was

         7          still in Taloyoak and that he did not have the

         8          financial means to come to Yellowknife for his

         9          trial.  At that point a warrant was issued for

        10          Mr. Alookee's arrest and the many people who were

        11          in the courtroom in response to jury summonses

        12          were excused.

        13               It is not disputed that after Mr. Alookee

        14          was advised that a warrant had been issued for

        15          his arrest he went to the RCMP Detachment in

        16          Taloyoak to turn himself in.  He was asked to

        17          come back two days later, and I gather this was

        18          because that was when the next flight out of the

        19          community was scheduled for.  Mr. Alookee did

        20          return to the RCMP as directed.  He was taken

        21          into custody and brought to Yellowknife.  He was

        22          brought before the Court on June 3rd, and the

        23          matter was adjourned to June 4th to give counsel

        24          time to decide how to proceed next.

        25               At that point there were two hearings that

        26          potentially needed to be scheduled; a hearing

        27          under section 598 of the Criminal Code to





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         1          determine whether Mr. Alookee had lost his right

         2          to be tried by a jury, and also a bail hearing to

         3          determine whether he would remain in custody or

         4          be released again pending the scheduling of his

         5          trial, because, obviously, the trial was not

         6          going to proceed that week.

         7               On June 4th the bail hearing proceeded.

         8          There was no viva voce evidence called at that

         9          time, but Mr. Alookee's counsel made submissions

        10          about some financial strains that had hit the

        11          Alookee family and some of their circumstances,

        12          all this leading to his failing to attend court.

        13               At the conclusion of that hearing, Mr.

        14          Alookee was ordered detained on the primary

        15          ground.  The section 598 hearing was adjourned to

        16          August 20th, and it was understood that the issue

        17          of bail could be revisited at that time.  Counsel

        18          advised that he would likely call viva voce

        19          evidence at the section 598 hearing, and it was

        20          expected this might be relevant to bail.

        21               So on August 20th the 598 hearing was held.

        22          Mrs. Alookee was called as a witness, and at the

        23          conclusion of her testimony the Crown conceded

        24          that Mr. Alookee had met his onus and had showed

        25          cause why he should retain his right to have a

        26          jury trial.  The bail hearing then proceeded.

        27          The evidence that had already been called was





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         1          applied to it, and Mr. Alookee testified.  At the

         2          conclusion of that bail hearing he was ordered

         3          detained, but on the secondary ground.

         4               His jury trial was eventually rescheduled

         5          and it started on January 24th, concluding on

         6          January 26th when the jury returned a verdict of

         7          not guilty.  That is the procedural history of

         8          the prosecution.

         9               Turning to the history of the forfeiture

        10          proceedings:  Essentially, pursuant to section

        11          770 of the Criminal Code, if a person does not

        12          comply with a condition of a recognizance, a

        13          Court, having knowledge of the default, is to

        14          endorse the recognizance with a certificate in

        15          Form 33.  The section sets out certain

        16          requirements as to what has to appear on the

        17          certificate.  The certificate was issued on June

        18          4th at the conclusion of the bail hearing.

        19               Section 771 of the Criminal Code provides

        20          that once a certificate has been filed, a hearing

        21          date must be set on request of either the Clerk

        22          of the Court or the Attorney General.  No request

        23          was made by either the Clerk or the Attorney

        24          General for a hearing date, but, rather, after

        25          the criminal proceedings were completed in

        26          January, 2011, Mr. Alookee's counsel wrote to the

        27          Registry requesting the return of the bail





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         1          monies.  The Registry contacted the Crown, who

         2          advised they did wish to have the monies

         3          forfeited, and that is how the matter got set for

         4          a hearing.

         5               That hearing started earlier this week.  Mr.

         6          Alookee's counsel raised preliminary objections

         7          to the hearing taking place, arguing that the

         8          Court did not have jurisdiction to hold it.  Some

         9          issues were raised with respect to notice, as

        10          well as alleged deficiencies in the certificate

        11          itself.

        12               After hearing submissions from both counsel

        13          on these issues, I concluded that the Court did

        14          have jurisdiction to hold the hearing, and I set

        15          the continuation of the hearing to today's date.

        16          I did so because I was of the view that counsel

        17          and the Court should have an opportunity to

        18          review the evidence that was adduced on August

        19          20th, since that evidence related to the

        20          circumstances that led to the default that

        21          triggered the forfeiture hearing.

        22               The Crown on this hearing had initially

        23          indicated that it was seeking full forfeiture of

        24          the bail monies, but, after having reviewed the

        25          transcript of the August 20th proceedings, Crown

        26          counsel has conceded that full forfeiture may not

        27          be appropriate.  He maintains that some





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         1          forfeiture should be ordered in order to uphold

         2          the integrity of the bail principles.

         3               Counsel points out that Mrs. Alookee was not

         4          a surety in this matter, so whatever diligence

         5          she displayed and whatever efforts she made are

         6          not what the Court should focus on at this

         7          hearing.  He says that the Court should focus,

         8          rather, on Mr. Alookee's own actions and efforts

         9          to comply with a recognizance.

        10               The Crown has referred me today to the case

        11          of R. v. Howell reported at [2008] N.J. No. 259,

        12          where one of the considerations in deciding on

        13          the amount of forfeiture was that the person in

        14          that case had been prosecuted and sentenced for

        15          the breach.  The Court found that that mitigated

        16          the need to forfeit the full amount.  In that

        17          case, because there has not been a prosecution

        18          for failure to appear, the Crown says, using the

        19          flip side of the same reasoning, that militates

        20          in favour of forfeiture.

        21               For his part, Mr. Alookee's counsel says

        22          that no money should be forfeited in this case.

        23          He has made arguments that justice was not

        24          delayed in this case, because the Court never

        25          lost control over Mr. Alookee.  He argues that it

        26          is irrelevant if it was Mrs. Alookee making the

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         1          himself; the point is that efforts were made.

         2               He also argues that the position taken by

         3          the Crown today is inconsistent with the position

         4          that was taken at the 598 hearing when the

         5          concession was made that Mr. Alookee should not

         6          lose his right to a jury trial and, in the

         7          process of doing so, acknowledged that efforts

         8          had been made and stated that there was no fault

         9          on Mr. Alookee's part or on his mother's part.

        10               I want to deal with that argument now,

        11          because I think it is important to draw certain

        12          distinctions.  I do think that the position that

        13          the Crown took at the section 598 hearing is

        14          relevant in the sense that it shows that the

        15          Crown accepted aspects of the evidence that was

        16          presented about the circumstances of the default,

        17          but that position has to be put in context of the

        18          nature of the hearing that was being held at that

        19          time.  Section 598 of the Code deals with what

        20          happens when a person fails to appear or remain

        21          at his or her jury trial.  This section places an

        22          onus on that person to show that they had a

        23          legitimate excuse for not attending.  Otherwise,

        24          they lose their right to a jury trial.

        25               That section has been challenged and its

        26          constitutionality has been upheld, but it has

        27          been interpreted to mean that nothing less than





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         1          deliberate avoidance or a mistake about the trial

         2          date that results from wilful blindness should

         3          deprive a person of their right to a jury trial.

         4          So it is a fairly high threshold.

         5               The position that the Crown took in the

         6          context of the section 598 hearing must be

         7          understood bearing in mind the legal test that

         8          was applicable in that hearing.  In light of the

         9          evidence that was heard, it was my opinion at the

        10          time - and it remains my opinion - that that was

        11          a sound, reasonable position for the Crown to

        12          take.  The circumstances that led the Crown to

        13          take that position and the evidence that led the

        14          Crown to take that position in the context of the

        15          section 598 hearing have relevance to this

        16          hearing, but I do not think that having made that

        17          concession at that time should necessarily be

        18          seen as creating an insurmountable obstacle for

        19          the Crown at the forfeiture hearing, because the

        20          legal test and principles that apply at a

        21          forfeiture hearing are very different than the

        22          ones that apply at a section 598 hearing.  The

        23          evidence about the circumstances of the failure

        24          to appear is relevant to both, but, as I say, the

        25          tests to be applied are very different.

        26               Turning now to the principles that I must

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         1          first of all, general principles.  A forfeiture

         2          hearing is an opportunity for the person who was

         3          bound by the recognizance or the sureties, if

         4          there are any sureties, to be relieved from

         5          forfeiture.  The onus is on those persons to show

         6          that they should be relieved from forfeiture.

         7               That is what is stated in Trotter's text,

         8          The Law of Bail in Canada, 2nd Edition.  That is

         9          at page 473.  It is also what the case of

        10          Canada v. Horvath says.  That is a case I

        11          referred to early on in these proceedings.  It is

        12          reported at [2009] 0.J. No. 4308 at paragraph 27.

        13          It is a Court of Appeal of Ontario decision, a

        14          five-judge panel, and I have found it very

        15          helpful and quite persuasive as far as setting

        16          out what kinds of considerations apply at a

        17          hearing like this one.

        18               In his text, Trotter also notes that

        19          paragraph 2 of section 771 does not provide much

        20          guidance as to how these hearings are to be

        21          conducted and what criteria should be applied in

        22          deciding whether to forfeit some, none or all of

        23          the bail amounts.  All the provision says is that

        24          the Judge may, after giving the parties an

        25          opportunity to be heard, in his discretion grant

        26          or refuse the application and make any order with

        27          respect to the forfeiture that he considers





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         1          proper.  One does not get much broader than that

         2          as far as a provision that gives a power to a

         3          court.  So it is clear from that particular

         4          provision that the power is a discretionary one.

         5               That is why I found the Horvath case useful,

         6          because it contains an overview of the various

         7          considerations that ought to come into play when

         8          making a decision like the one I have to make

         9          today.  That case dealt with situations that

        10          involved sureties, but I find that many of the

        11          principles that are set out in that case can also

        12          apply to situations such as this one where there

        13          was no surety, especially in this case, I think,

        14          because although Mrs. Alookee was not a surety,

        15          she was the one who sent the monies to be

        16          deposited.

        17               The evidence adduced on August 20th, which

        18          was not challenged in any real way by the Crown,

        19          was that this money is her money.  The evidence

        20          also showed that she acted very much as a de

        21          facto surety in the circumstances of this case,

        22          taking steps to try to get Mr. Alookee to court;

        23          she was very aware of his reporting conditions.

        24               Although I agree with the Crown that she

        25          does not have any standing on this hearing, I

        26          still am of the view that in exercising my

        27          discretion I should not disregard her involvement





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         1          completely, nor the fact that ultimately the

         2          money that stands to be forfeited is hers.

         3               In Horvath the Court recognized the

         4          importance of approaching these hearings with the

         5          objective of ensuring the effectiveness of the

         6          bail system, which is obviously an important

         7          consideration.  But the Court also said at

         8          paragraph 44 that it did not accept that the only

         9          way to ensure the effectiveness of the system was

        10          to adopt a rigid rule of total forfeiture, absent

        11          exceptional circumstances.  Rather, the Court

        12          favoured a more flexible approach as being more

        13          consistent with the broad discretion that is

        14          implied by the language of section 771(2), and I

        15          agree entirely with that.

        16               At paragraph 51 of the decision the Court

        17          outlined a number of factors that can be

        18          considered in deciding how to exercise the

        19          discretion.  All these factors, of course, are

        20          worded in terms of the surety, but, as I have

        21          said, many are relevant and, in my opinion, can

        22          be applied by analogy to cases where there are no

        23          sureties.  These factors include, for instance,

        24          the amount of the recognizance, the question of

        25          diligence, whether it is diligence of the surety

        26          or diligence of the person bound by the

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         1          involved, the question of the conduct that takes

         2          place after the breach.

         3               To the extent that the evidence called on

         4          August 20th related to the reasons why Mr.

         5          Alookee was not in court on May 31st, his actions

         6          and that of his mother, both before and after

         7          that date, as well as the financial situation

         8          that the family faced, that evidence goes to some

         9          of these factors I have just identified and is

        10          relevant to the question that must now be

        11          decided.  That is why I felt it was important to

        12          have transcripts of that evidence so that what

        13          was said at that time be clear.

        14               Counsel acknowledged earlier this week that

        15          there would be very little point in having these

        16          people testify again about these matters for the

        17          purposes of the forfeiture hearing, and, once

        18          again, that is a reasonable approach.  The

        19          transcripts show that their evidence on August

        20          20th, that being the evidence of Mrs. Alookee and

        21          the evidence of Mr. Alookee, was not really

        22          challenged by the Crown.  The cross-examination

        23          was geared as eliciting further details and

        24          clarifications, but, really, there was no issue

        25          taken with what the witnesses were saying about

        26          what transpired.

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         1          live with her after he was charged with matters

         2          involving his common-law spouse in Repulse Bay

         3          and he was required to live outside of that

         4          community.  She testified that she paid for him

         5          to come to Taloyoak to live with her, and she

         6          explained that as the trial date approached in

         7          April or May she tried to contact Defence counsel

         8          to explain their money issues, but that counsel

         9          was on holidays.  She testified that she had also

        10          spoken to counsel sometime before this in

        11          February, she thought, and that she had been told

        12          that there might be some assistance available for

        13          her.  When she was not able to get a hold of

        14          counsel, she tried to get a points ticket for Mr.

        15          Alookee, but, because they were at the last

        16          minute, that did not work either.

        17               She explained that the financial problems

        18          the family faced around that time stemmed in part

        19          from the fact that her husband got diagnosed with

        20          cancer in September, 2009 and that she and her

        21          husband had to spend extended periods of time in

        22          Edmonton while he was being treated.  There were

        23          expenses associated with all of this and that

        24          strained the family's finances.

        25               Mr. Alookee, for his part, testified that he

        26          had looked for work while he was on release in

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         1          but he did not have any success.  He also talked

         2          about how he turned himself in to police custody

         3          on the very day the warrant was issued and,

         4          again, two days later when he was directed to do

         5          so.

         6               The exercise of a discretionary power

         7          requires the balancing of a lot of factors, and

         8          there are quite a few that come out of the

         9          evidence and the circumstances of this case; some

        10          that militate in favour of forfeiture and others

        11          that militate against it.

        12               As far as things that would tend to militate

        13          in favour of a forfeiture order, I think the

        14          first is the need for the courts to uphold and

        15          enforce the bail system and not undermine it.

        16          The real effective force of bail and of cash

        17          deposits and sureties is that it provides a

        18          powerful incentive for a person to attend their

        19          trial and comply with conditions, because, if

        20          they do not, monetary consequences will follow

        21          for themselves, for their loved one who posted

        22          their bail or for their sureties, if they have

        23          any.

        24               As the Court of Appeal of Ontario put it in

        25          Horvath at paragraph 41, our system depends on

        26          accused persons attending court, and if accused

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         1          court and there would be no consequences as far

         2          as bail monies or sureties, the surety system and

         3          bail system would be ineffective.  That is a

         4          consideration that militates in favour of there

         5          being a meaningful monetary consequence for the

         6          default in this case.

         7               Another consideration is the nature of the

         8          default.  By this I mean this was a failure to

         9          appear at a date set for a jury trial.

        10          Prospective jurors were inconvenienced by having

        11          to attend court in response to their summonses.

        12          There had been subpoenas issued for the May 31st

        13          date, and the court file shows that two were

        14          issued to residents of Gjoa Haven, and, of

        15          course, there was the expense associated with

        16          arresting and transporting Mr. Alookee under

        17          escort to Yellowknife for his trial.

        18               Another consideration is the effect of the

        19          default, which in this case was to delay the

        20          trial for some six months.  Defence counsel has

        21          argued, based on R. v. Wan, [2010] B.C.J. No.

        22          766, that a delay of the trial in this context

        23          implies a loss of control by the Court over the

        24          movements of the accused for a period of time; in

        25          other words, a period of limbo where the system

        26          loses track of someone.

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         1          make reference to this notion of losing control

         2          over the accused, but, again, these comments must

         3          be read in the context of the case.  In Wan the

         4          accused was out on bail, breached his conditions,

         5          was arrested and then was taken before the court

         6          and his matters were dealt with.  There is no

         7          indication whatsoever that proceedings were

         8          delayed in any way as a result of the default.

         9          Whereas in this case, because the default was a

        10          failure to appear and it occurred on a trial

        11          date, there was a delay in the proceedings, and

        12          that is a factor.

        13               The next consideration having to do with the

        14          circumstances leading to the breach, and I will

        15          get back to this in a moment, but some aspects of

        16          that also militate in favour of forfeiture to

        17          this extent:  The trial had been set a long time

        18          ahead of time.  Most of the efforts seem to have

        19          been made by Mrs. Alookee.  Some steps that might

        20          have been taken were not taken, such as speaking

        21          to the police or Crown or the court to flag these

        22          problems that were being encountered.

        23               As for this question that the Crown has

        24          asked me to take into account, that being the

        25          fact that Mr. Alookee was not prosecuted or

        26          sentenced for the breach, I will say this:  The

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         1          forfeiture.  But, with respect, I cannot agree

         2          with that.  I do not think that the argument used

         3          in the Howell case can be used a contrario,

         4          because the fact that a person is not charged

         5          does not necessarily mean that they got a break.

         6          It can simply mean that the authorities

         7          recognized that they would not have had a

         8          reasonable prospect of conviction on a breach

         9          charge.  So I really do not see how that argument

        10          works.  It is the flip side of the consideration

        11          given by the Court in Howell to not over-punish

        12          someone, but, with respect, I do not think it

        13          works in the other direction.

        14               So I have talked about things that would

        15          militate in favour of forfeiture.  Now I will

        16          turn to things that militate against it.  Some of

        17          these factors go back to the same general

        18          categories, but just other angles, other sides of

        19          the same coin, if I can put it that way.

        20               The consequences of the default:  I have

        21          talked about this already as far as the delay of

        22          the trial and the inconvenience to prospective

        23          jurors and the costs.  One very significant

        24          consequence of this default is that Mr. Alookee

        25          ended up being detained following his failure to

        26          attend and he was detained for a number of

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         1          consequence, and, in my view, in the

         2          circumstances of this case, it is especially not

         3          an insignificant consequence because of the

         4          situation that was going on with his family, his

         5          father's serious illness and deteriorating

         6          health.

         7               I was told today that at the time of the

         8          trial Mr. Alookee had not passed away, but the

         9          fact is, at the time of the August 20th bail

        10          hearing the evidence from Mrs. Alookee was that

        11          the prognosis was very poor, which means that

        12          while Mr. Alookee was sitting on remand, he was

        13          sitting with the knowledge that essentially his

        14          father was dying.  So I do not think that that is

        15          a consequence that can be ignored in terms of the

        16          overall picture.

        17               The other aspect is to do with the

        18          circumstances of the default itself.  I think I

        19          should take into account that there were

        20          financial pressures on the family due to the

        21          father's illness that were beyond the control of

        22          Mr. Alookee and of everybody else.  So that is

        23          one factor.  Also, although perhaps more could

        24          have been done, some steps were taken on his

        25          behalf to try to address this, including

        26          contacting counsel, trying to find alternative

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         1          that she testified about.

         2               The third factor - and it is one of the ones

         3          identified in Horvath - is the behaviour after

         4          the default.  In this case, I think to be fair,

         5          Mr. Alookee could not have been more cooperative

         6          with the authorities in turning himself in.  It

         7          is very clear he was not trying to evade the

         8          authorities.  On the contrary, according to his

         9          mother's testimony, he really wanted to get this

        10          matter dealt with.

        11               Another factor that is identified in the

        12          case law is the amount of money.  In Horvath, the

        13          court said at paragraph 46 that in most cases

        14          involving relatively small amounts, total

        15          forfeiture may be required to adequately enforce

        16          what is called the "pull of bail".  By that, the

        17          Court means the effectiveness of the bail system

        18          and the incentive it gives to an accused to

        19          comply with conditions.  But, of course, what is

        20          a relatively small amount?  That in itself is a

        21          very relative thing.

        22               Based on the evidence about this family's

        23          situation, I have no doubt that $2,500 is not a

        24          small amount of money.  As I have already noted,

        25          I do not think that I can ignore the evidence

        26          that this is Mrs. Alookee's money, even though,

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         1          was not named as a surety.

         2               So I have tried to outline the various

         3          considerations that I see having relevance here.

         4          Part of the reason I have gone on at some length

         5          here was that I do find this is one of those

         6          cases where there really are factors pointing in

         7          all directions.  I have considered all these

         8          factors, and, I must say, ordinarily in a

         9          situation that involves a failure to appear for a

        10          jury trial in particular, I would be very much

        11          inclined to order full forfeiture or at least

        12          partial forfeiture, primarily to promote and

        13          uphold the effectiveness of bail principles.  I

        14          think that in most cases that would be an

        15          appropriate way to deal with the matter if I take

        16          into consideration the applicable principles and

        17          the persuasive guidelines set out in the case

        18          that I have referred to several times already.

        19          But when a Court exercises broad discretionary

        20          powers, it has to be sensitive to the unique

        21          circumstances of each individual case.

        22               After having considered all the competing

        23          factors carefully, I conclude that given the

        24          circumstances that brought about the default,

        25          including the financial and personal turmoils

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         1          that Mr. Alookee faced himself as a result of his

         2          failure to attend court on May 31st, it is not in

         3          this case necessary to forfeit these bail monies

         4          to uphold the principles that underlie the bail

         5          system.

         6               It has been suggested that I could order the

         7          forfeiture of a small amount to symbolically

         8          uphold the bail principles, but I have decided

         9          against that.  I think the forfeiture of a small

        10          amount of money, even if it was $200 or $300,

        11          might do more harm than good as far as upholding

        12          the bail system.  It might actually trivialize

        13          matters more than anything else.  The fact is

        14          that but for the very exceptional circumstances

        15          in this case, most of all of these monies would

        16          have been ordered forfeited.  So since I have

        17          concluded that in the circumstances that would

        18          not be appropriate, I really do not see the point

        19          in making what would essentially be a token

        20          order.

        21               Unlike the analogy that was made with the

        22          situation of a sentencing where a Judge gives one

        23          day in jail to an offender, I think in that

        24          context there is a point.  The Judge sends a

        25          message to the offender and leaves a very clear

        26          clue for the next Judge, should the person be

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         1          forfeiture, I do not think that the kind of

         2          signal that this would give is the same or can

         3          serve the same purpose, and I do not see it as a

         4          desirable approach.  For these reasons, I decline

         5          to order forfeiture of these monies.

         6               Now, the question is what order I should

         7          make.  Mr. Bran, I can't remember what you

         8          requested in your letter, but would it be

         9          appropriate for me to direct that the monies be

        10          returned to you in trust for Mr. Alookee?  I am

        11          sure the Registry won't want to mail $2,500 to

        12          Taloyoak.  So what do you suggest?

        13      MR. BRAN:              Your Honour, I don't have a

        14          trust account, and I don't believe I am in a

        15          position to legally take any money in trust.

        16          What I would suggest is issuing a -- and I am not

        17          even sure how bail money is normally returned, if

        18          it's returned in cash or if it's returned in a

        19          cheque.

        20      THE COURT:             Okay.  Well, I think what I am

        21          going to do is I am simply going to make the

        22          order that the money -- and I have to order it

        23          returned to Mr. Alookee, I think, because Mrs.

        24          Alookee, although there is a receipt in her name,

        25          the money was ordered deposited for him.  She is

        26          not a surety.  I cannot direct that the money be

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         1          returned to Mr. Alookee, and I will speak to the

         2          Registry staff to make sure that that is done in

         3          a way that is consistent with how they normally

         4          proceed so that I do not create problems, and

         5          perhaps we can figure out those details later.

         6          But do you know, Mr. Alookee still lives with his

         7          mother, does he?

         8      MR. BRAN:              Your Honour, I am not sure,

         9          given the fact that there was an issue with

        10          Nunavut matters before the Nunavut Court of

        11          Justice.  What I could do is I can undertake to

        12          contact Mr. Alookee and get a current mailing

        13          address and I can provide that to the Court

        14          Registry --

        15      THE COURT:             Okay.

        16      MR. BRAN:              -- probably by the end of

        17          tomorrow for mailing purposes.

        18      THE COURT:             All right.  Well, my order

        19          will be that the monies be returned to Mr.

        20          Alookee and that counsel provide the Registry

        21          with the necessary information to allow that to

        22          happen.  That should leave it general enough.

        23               I want to thank you, counsel, for your

        24          submissions on this.  They were very helpful.

        25               I just wanted to add, more as a postscript

        26          than anything else, that there is a mechanism in

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         1          provides for an application to be made for the

         2          issuance of an arrest warrant when a person has

         3          breached or is about to breach a recognizance.

         4               I am not directing it as a criticism at all.

         5          I am just raising it as an option that may, in

         6          certain circumstances, be open if counsel become

         7          aware very shortly before the start of a trial

         8          that the accused person will not be in court.

         9          That is a mechanism that I think is sometimes

        10          used.  Of course, it requires communicating with

        11          the Crown, because it would be the Crown that

        12          would be applying for the warrant, not Defence,

        13          but it is a means of getting something in place

        14          that can allow a trial to proceed.

        15               It was not the case in this case, but it is

        16          a means to, for example, avoid having a court

        17          party get on a plane on a Monday morning to a

        18          destination when it is known that there will not

        19          be a point to that if the person, say, is stuck

        20          on the wrong side of Great Bear Lake at breakup

        21          time or -- you smile, Mr. Bran, but that has

        22          happened.

        23               So I just wanted to mention that, just in

        24          case a situation arises in the future where that

        25          option could be considered, possibly.

        26               So if there is nothing further from either

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         1      MR. ST-GERMAIN:        Thank you, Your Honour.

         2      MR. BRAN:              Thank you, Your Honour.

         3      THE COURT:             Thank you, counsel.

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